Why use a Dragoon or Monk when you can use a Warrior?

[Raygun]

Honestly, I don't see a reason to.

Monks may be worth a spot on one or maybe two encounters due to their higher dps. I wouldn't bring a Dragoon over a Warrior ever. In the grand scheme, Warriors are simply much better all around than either of the other two melee jobs. Most of the setups in my LS and outside are either range stacked or Warrior stacked. The best tank job is also the best all-around melee job. Their damage, their AoE damage, and their survivability in combination makes Warriors the best choice in most cases. I understand they are making some changes for Paladins, but how about for Dragoons and Monks?

I don't want to talk about range v. melee, just simply melee v. melee in this thread.

[DoctorMog]

Dragoon has 2 AOE abilities, an aoe stun, lower enmity to dps ratio, the ability to GTFO combat in an instant etc...

Monk has much higher single target dps, higher accuracy, faster TP generation, movement speed increase for chasing monsters etc..

[Raygun]

Dragoon has 2 AOE abilities, an aoe stun, lower enmity to dps ratio, the ability to GTFO combat in an instant etc...

Warriors have plenty of AoE, AoE stun, and who cares if they get hate because they can unquestionably tank. Where is Dragoons niche? The ability to run away?

[Doho]

Warriors have plenty of AoE, AoE stun, and who cares if they get hate because they can unquestionably tank. Where is Dragoons niche? The ability to run away?

since when is survivablity not desired?

[TirionCrey]

Warriors have plenty of AoE, AoE stun, and who cares if they get hate because they can unquestionably tank. Where is Dragoons niche? The ability to run away?

I fail to see these so called "plenty AoEs"...

@OP: Well, WAR stacking might be viable but only if you're WHMs such so bad, they can't keep meeles alive and/or Meeles that are not WAR are too slow to get away from trouble, so they rely on WARs HP pool to survive anything...

Both shows a lack in skill, while the game definetely supports using MNK and DRG, since both do better and faster DPS then WAR, the only thing is, they are squishy...that's it.

More reasons...WAR needs to start his Steel Cyclone Combo in front of the target, Steel Cyclone Stun is very "occasional", while Leg Sweep Stun is pretty much always happening with few exceptions.

DRG has access to his AoE WSs faster and more often then WAR.

MNK just straight outdmgs anything in the game right now without exception. Collusion a MNK right before Blindside Dragon Kick, and all others who are yellow/red in that moment will jump to green/yellow.

Overall I don't see any reason to take more then 1 WAR(for tanking), since all other DPS classes do a better job.

Sure as WAR you survive, but surviving shit shouldn't be a viable factor into what DD class to play, DPS should be the biggest factor, especially with survival being accomplished by something as stupid as having skill.

[TheVedis]

I will give you the only reason you need to know

1) Because people enjoy playing monk and dragoon

[Chardrizard]

I will give you the only reason you need to know

1) Because people enjoy playing monk and dragoon

+1 this. I enjoy playing MNK and i have been MNKing everything since it's out. Darkhold, Moogle, Ifrit, AV, CC, you name it.

[Scherwiz]

+1 this. I enjoy playing MNK and i have been MNKing everything since it's out. Darkhold, Moogle, Ifrit, AV, CC, you name it.

You have to respect that.