Why use a Dragoon or Monk when you can use a Warrior?

[Rydin]

FFXI style "Abyssea procs" is the WORST type of lazy "balancing" there is. The jobs should be able to stand on their own and all be useful when compared to each other, THEN they can add that stuff later.

They already are useful in their own right... in which case it IS time to add the incap/BR usefulness tactics in

[Raygun]

Why would any of this matter anyways?

Well, we're pretty much in beta for 2.0 at this point. There are only seven classes and the balance seems completely awful at this point. Dragoons are completely outdone by Warriors. Monks are really only good for those stationary battles on speed runs. Everything else is Warriors or ranged. With only seven classes total, do we really need a niche job like Monk or (bad copy) redundant one like Dragoon?

I'm just hoping that all these classes get better balanced. I play Warrior, Monk, and Dragoon as my jobs, but I'm on Warrior almost all the time even if I'm not tanking. That seems silly to me.

[Rydin]

Well, we're pretty much in beta for 2.0 at this point. There are only seven classes and the balance seems completely awful at this point.

Come on... thats sensationalism at its best...
Does the game need balancing tweaks.. yes
But you know what... it ALWAYS will
the balance is not absolutely horrible... I think its definitely in the ballpark

But no matter how much you balance...
There will be people like Starlord and TheVedis who play the classes they love and have fun with them regardless...
And there will always be people who stack certain classes thinking that is the only way it can be done....

But if you balance the content....

Say Shiva had some huge move where you had to incap her legs to stop it from happening... then you're going to want a MNK using "Fist of Fire" with Demolish

If you have to break Titans left arm to stop him from using some ground punch that stuns and damages the entire party... then you damn well better have a dragoon in there

See, the case can be made that every class is situational... and SE has just made more BRD and BLM situations at the moment
Once the content is more diverse, I am hoping we'll see a lot more usefulness out of every class

[Arcell]

Come on... thats sensationalism at its best...
Does the game need balancing tweaks.. yes
But you know what... it ALWAYS will
the balance is not absolutely horrible... I think its definitely in the ballpark

But no matter how much you balance...
There will be people like Starlord and TheVedis who play the classes they love and have fun with them regardless...
And there will always be people who stack certain classes thinking that is the only way it can be done....

But if you balance the content....

Say Shiva had some huge move where you had to incap her legs to stop it from happening... then you're going to want a MNK using "Fist of Fire" with Demolish

If you have to break Titans left arm to stop him from using some ground punch that stuns and damages the entire party... then you damn well better have a dragoon in there

See, the case can be made that every class is situational... and SE has just made more BRD and BLM situations at the moment
Once the content is more diverse, I am hoping we'll see a lot more usefulness out of every class

I'm all in for anything that makes further use of the Incapacitation system. They've really been neglecting it lately.

[Sortis]

Come on... thats sensationalism at its best...
Does the game need balancing tweaks.. yes
But you know what... it ALWAYS will
the balance is not absolutely horrible... I think its definitely in the ballpark

But no matter how much you balance...
There will be people like Starlord and TheVedis who play the classes they love and have fun with them regardless...
And there will always be people who stack certain classes thinking that is the only way it can be done....

But if you balance the content....

Say Shiva had some huge move where you had to incap her legs to stop it from happening... then you're going to want a MNK using "Fist of Fire" with Demolish

If you have to break Titans left arm to stop him from using some ground punch that stuns and damages the entire party... then you damn well better have a dragoon in there

See, the case can be made that every class is situational... and SE has just made more BRD and BLM situations at the moment
Once the content is more diverse, I am hoping we'll see a lot more usefulness out of every class

You hit the nail on the head, sir!

[Zahak]

My Dragoon kills things faster than my warrior, a lot faster. Sure, Warrior is a good tank, Drg does deal the damage though.

[Raygun]

My Dragoon kills things faster than my warrior, a lot faster.

Like random world fodder?

[Starlord]

Like I said "Elitist" Thread