What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[MagiusNecros]

What am I supposed to find enjoyable about a character who does nothing but give lore expositions and is used as a means to make light of the male members of the party?

Yshtola is naught more then a Miqote and all Miqote girls(except V'kebbe) have bad takes and all have a seat at the mean girls table. It would not surprise me if Yshtola descended from Athena.

[Raoabolic]

It's unfortunate you feel she does that for you. Many people love Y'shtola and finds she makes the scenes she's in very enjoyable. All of those takes on both sides are opinions. She doesn't objectively "make" or "ruin" anything.

Many people also like modern star wars. Doesn't mean there isn't plenty wrong with the IP, lol.

[RyuDragnier]

Many people also like modern star wars. Doesn't mean there isn't plenty wrong with the IP, lol.

Hey, we do not diss Jedi: Fallen Order!

[NanaWiloh]

When Zenos returns for the umpteenth time at as the main villain for 7.0:



Y'shtola: "Somehow, Zenos returned."

Throw Rofus in there for taking an explosion to the face and walking away like another day in the park.

[Vahlnir]

Ah yes, pleading misogyny when someone disagrees with a video game character. Next up on how low and can the lore community go.

Emet-Selch was right all along it seems.

[SentioftheHoukai]

Emet-Selch was right all along it seems.

Always has been.

Hey, we do not diss Jedi: Fallen Order!

Low hanging fruit, hey! Can I have some? ;3

It's unfortunate you feel she does that for you. Many people love Y'shtola and finds she makes the scenes she's in very enjoyable. All of those takes on both sides are opinions. She doesn't objectively "make" or "ruin" anything.

Hey, now. I don't see any "in my opinions" in here. Also, "many people?" who are these many people you speak of? We need names, details. Every last one. ;3

[Theodric]

I used to find Y'shtola tolerable but she's becoming about as much as an insufferable know-it-all as Hermione Granger at this point. It'd be pretty refreshing to see one of her theories be shown to be utterly wrong to humble her a little. I think if the intention is to make a cast of protagonists to be likeable and relatable then ensuring that they stumble and fall from time to time is a necessity. I'm also not sure why Y'shtola was insisting on being the one to share her aether with Zero when she's supposedly weakened already by her inability to see through regular means.

I suppose I just miss the days where the game's worldbuilding and story accounted for such things more prominently.

At any rate, Zero is a refreshing breath of fresh air by virtue of having a more mercenary personality to the other characters. How long that lasts, exactly, remains to be seen - but it showcases how the dynamic of a scene can become a lot more interesting when new faces and personalities are mixed in with the old.

[aveyond-dreams]

As far as mercenaries go I maintain that we should've picked her or a character like that up at a tavern (in 6.1) instead of relying on a magic crystal to purify her for us. A simple, more generic scene > cheap devices being thrown in randomly.

[Semirhage]

I used to find Y'shtola tolerable but she's becoming about as much as an insufferable know-it-all as Hermione Granger at this point. It'd be pretty refreshing to see one of her theories be shown to be utterly wrong to humble her a little. I think if the intention is to make a cast of protagonists to be likeable and relatable then ensuring that they stumble and fall from time to time is a necessity. I'm also not sure why Y'shtola was insisting on being the one to share her aether with Zero when she's supposedly weakened already by her inability to see through regular means.

I suppose I just miss the days where the game's worldbuilding and story accounted for such things more prominently.

This is straining my credulity too. We keep getting these quests where Scions offer to dump their aether into something, whether it be a voidsent or auracite crystal or whatever. And like, it's pretty much always someone who just finished talking about being near-dead from exhaustion at the end of their rope.

Standing next to a person who's been rejoined more times than any living person, and is canonically the fountain of practical infinity plus one aether. While they just stand there and go "yup. Aether bleeding Y'shtola should be the one to hand over some aether. I'm just gonna stand here like I'm not the far more obvious candidate for it".

[Striker44]

Hey, now. I don't see any "in my opinions" in here. Also, "many people?" who are these many people you speak of? We need names, details. Every last one. ;3

What you quoted:

All of those takes on both sides are opinions.

Sad, man. Just sad. Also, here's some polling for you

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...avorite_scion/

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards...eborn/77792946

The first is from last year. The second is from three years ago. Y'shtola ranks #1 among the Scions in both. Note also that both polls put the few dozen unique posters on this forum to shame in terms of numbers.

More recent Japanese-specific polls rank Y'shtola lower, but show a huge fanbase for Venat. They also feature thousands of respondents, and rank EW as their favorite expansion (I can link those, too, if you like).

See, here's the difference. People pointing out that EW and the Scions are popular have a huge mountain of evidence to draw from supporting how many people really feel that way. People claiming "many" whatever in disagreement have nothing real to cite. The best we see is someone citing the one thread on here, ignoring that it's the same people posting over and over again and ignoring that a considerable portion of those posts are people praising the game and the Scions.