VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

[reivaxe]

Honestly if the great Earpocalypse of 6.1 had never happened and they hadn't received so much criticism I'm skeptical the new ponytails would have been added to Hrothgar. Even though it wasn't a fun experience overall it yielded positive changes concerning how much more seriously Hrothgars' pitiful state as a race needed to be addressed.

Nah, it was clear to me that once they started giving these races shared hair they would add new hairs to them at the same time as everyone else. Once you figure out that that's the path you want to take and how to make it work, it would make no sense to leave that undone til later. The Mog ponytail was proof enough of that.

[LuciaMirain]

I have seen these pics (there are more from the side as well). The two new hairstyles seem to work fine. I WISH they had a longer tail, but my guess is they went "clipping bad".

Also Idk if they are both SUPPOSED to work....

[SturmChurro]

I have seen these pics (there are more from the side as well). The two new hairstyles seem to work fine. I WISH they had a longer tail, but my guess is they went "clipping bad".

Also Idk if they are both SUPPOSED to work....

I like the second one. I might use that one when I get around to unlocking it.

[Caro178]

Nah, it was clear to me that once they started giving these races shared hair they would add new hairs to them at the same time as everyone else. Once you figure out that that's the path you want to take and how to make it work, it would make no sense to leave that undone til later. The Mog ponytail was proof enough of that.

A) I was referring to Hrothgar here, B) Hrothgar didn't get the Mog ponytail because it's gender locked to female, C) YoshiP said quite recently that adding hairstyles on Hrothgar would be a slower process due to the extra work they were going to do on the ears (after Earpocalypse). So no, I'm not sure they would have worked on Hrothgar. Viera is a whole other story and I agree with you but YoshiP had also implied since before Endwalker/male Viera launch that they had worked out the Viera hairstyle kinks regarding brand new hairstyles. He said nothing of the sort regarding Hrothgar and historically looking at Viera/Hrothgar as a packaged deal has been a mistake.

[reivaxe]

A) I was referring to Hrothgar here, B) Hrothgar didn't get the Mog ponytail because it's gender locked to female, C) YoshiP said quite recently that adding hairstyles on Hrothgar would be a slower process due to the extra work they were going to do on the ears (after Earpocalypse). So no, I'm not sure they would have worked on Hrothgar. Viera is a whole other story and I agree with you but YoshiP had also implied since before Endwalker/male Viera launch that they had worked out the Viera hairstyle kinks regarding brand new hairstyles. He said nothing of the sort regarding Hrothgar and historically looking at Viera/Hrothgar as a packaged deal has been a mistake.

A) So was I, Hrothgar had shared hair before the Mog hair, and they clearly get the same shared hair as Viera
B) I know, the Hrothgar situation is really not as far removed from Viera as you think, seeing as they end up getting the same hairstyles, if only later.
C) If you got a cite for that, I'd like to see it. But regardless, it doesn't contradict anything I said. Hrothgar got their ears reworked into the shared hair AND the 2 new hairs ... because of this they are now 2 hair batches behind Viera instead of 1, as they didn't get the 2nd batch of hair yet. "Once you know which path to take and how to do it, it would make no sense to release new things without doing this method, just to give yourself more work to do later".

P.S- You can fill a tub with the rando stuff YP said before about both races head stuff. YP first said that Viera would get some small amount of shared hair that they felt would work on them and Hrothgar would only get unique heads waaay back before ShB came out. He then changes it to "only unique hair" for Viera not long after that statement, and kept saying that until we got the hair patch in EW. They didn't decide to make the genders until 6mts after ShB came out, it makes sense (to me, at least) that what they thought to do about the hair would be effected given the backlash and the decision to make their 2nd genders.
Simply put, regardless of if you want to call it a "packaged deal" or not, BOTH Hrothgar and Viera are seemingly getting most all the same shared hair as everyone else in batches. It would make no sense to release new hair that doesn't work for them only to go back and make them compatible 1 year later at this point, now that they're clearly going the shared hair route. I know people like being jaded and like crying "SmAlL InDy dEvS, RiTe?!" but logically, it wouldn't make any sense to exclude EITHER Hrothgar or Viera from new hair after they both started getting shared hair.

[SturmChurro]

I just like to be cautious about updates to viera, after rage quitting off viera.. a few.. times in ShB.. I really don't want to get my hopes up again that the race will get proper updates after all that. SE can earn my trust back on this aspect though, if they keep going with updates to viera, not cut off our ears, and keep quality high(er).

[Raikai]

I WISH they had a longer tail, but my guess is they went "clipping bad".

This shouldn't be a problem...



This is literally the same hairstyle, but with a longer tail that goes down to the neck. It clips? Maybe it does with some collars, but then a lot of hairstyles do.

It even made me question on why they would release a hairstyle so similar... But then seeing it in action, I backed up on that idea a bit. Very similar, but still distinct enough, I suppose, but it also holds more value because the new one is available for guys.

[Razzyness]

This shouldn't be a problem...



This is literally the same hairstyle, but with a longer tail that goes down to the neck. It clips? Maybe it does with some collars, but then a lot of hairstyles do.

It even made me question on why they would release a hairstyle so similar... But then seeing it in action, I backed up on that idea a bit. Very similar, but still distinct enough, I suppose, but it also holds more value because the new one is available for guys.

Is that the high ponytail?

And omg that elezens so pretty

[Raikai]

Is that the high ponytail?

And omg that elezens so pretty

No, that's a common female hairstyle added in Heavensward iirc

[SherlottaEryut]

I know I’m late to this, but…

I’m really happy with the new Viera hairstyles… Great lengths especially <3

Hrothgar got their ears back, it looks so much better. I’m a bit behind on the XIV news, did they mention if Hroth will get race exclusive hair down the line? Or are they going to stick with the ports?