VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

[SturmChurro]

I think the outrage to them cherrypicking and only porting hairstyles that cost IRL money first would have been enormous and I'm personally relieved they didn't do it. I get that folks want to use those hairs too but making base game and Modern Aesthetics obtainable through rewards available first was the right move. Anything else would have come across as downright predatory.

Making paid for hairstyles available for players who have purchased them is good, but it can look like they are only making them available first for further monetary gain. It's tricky. Of course, I think hairstyles in general are coming out too slow, but I digress.

I should clarify, I think hairstyles are coming out too slow for viera and hrothgar. If these hairstyles released at a faster pace, or more dropped at once each patch, then the debate of which hairstyles being made available first wouldn't matter as much.

[Pip_Chick]

I should clarify, I think hairstyles are coming out too slow for viera and hrothgar. If these hairstyles released at a faster pace, or more dropped at once each patch, then the debate of which hairstyles being made available first wouldn't matter as much.

100% this. The thing with paid hairstyles is that they should all be added because they have been paid for, you have to pay to get access to them. But adding only the Mog hairstyles would as Caro said, be predatory.
The best solution would be to add all the Mog hairstyles at once, but those to be beside some in-game ones.

[SturmChurro]

Eyyy got ears from the get go this time ^^

There is hope

I just wonder how many man hours that required!

Probably the semi-long center part hair that has a fringe and no fringe version.

I could see them maybe skipping the hairband and Moenbryda hair because of where the ears are positioned, but we'll see

Nah, they would just make it weird like the 2b hair. Though I could see that excuse being made. Imagine adjusting models.

I hope they will add this one, it's really cute ♥

Could be. Depends on forehead.

Absolute meme hours today; there are more than a handful of comments on the Hroth/Viera hair update complaining about how catgirls, hyurs, etc. haven't had enough hairstyle focus and they're putting too much time into buns and lionmen. Worse - they're begging for Viera exclusive locked hair and have been for a while. Frigging excuse me? We had to wait 3 years to use new Modern Aesthetics or even default hairstyles, yet apparently it's now the bulk of the playerbase (that has access to absolutely everything) wanting Viera hairstyles? Like yeah, I agree Viera has some racial exclusives that are a hell of a lot better than entire list of catgirl exclusives. I wouldn't even care if they shared the full list among all races one day, but this complaint just ain't it. Amusing though, I'll give it that.

My favorite racial exclusive is the singular hair I use on au ra. I would like to have that hairstyle available, although I don't know about making racial hairstyles non-exclusive.

Cats asking for more glam options is pretty funny. They have literally every hairstyle and glam option in the game styled to fit them. A few things they can't have won't kill them.

They do not. Miqo'te ears are cut off now in hats, for example. Capes are constant, and the tail clipping is horrific. Outfit pieces are made for hyur.

They are being catered to though, it's called literally the rest of the game Hrothgar and Viera do not have access to!

All the hairstyles, headgear, representation, NPCs, story focus, proper lore (bonus points if your lore doesn't amount to "but you can ignore this because everything got destroyed by fascists/you being outside your city means you no longer abide by it")

:P Funny how they only remembered we existed and actively supported us when their own racial traits got axed.

Miqo'te aren't being catered to though. Miqo'te get their racial features removed, same with au ra. Of course viera and hrothgar have it worse, but still.

Yeah, I dunno. I don't get it. Just took screenshots of what was said. I obviously think Viera look gorgeous. Their flaw is lack of headgear options and hairstyles. They have beautiful faces and eyes with vibrant colours, detailed textures and some of the best default racial hairstyles in the game. They also have the most beautiful darker skin tons. If they had launched complete (full headgear, full hairstyles) I'm sure more folks would have swapped and stayed. How popular the race is even with the shortcoming and being locked to an expansion speaks volumes.

Hairstyles can make or break a face, ESPECIALLY in this game. With viera, they look great, but we need more variety, and options for sure.

The problem is effort. The problem is time. And the problem is not allocating resources to stuff that's already been proven to take quite little time to do, instead of squashing a Hrothgar's skull into a Peanut.

Agreed.

Nah screw that. Each race has exclusives and then some. We are just catching up with the then some. Racial hair should stay racial hair, I won’t be here asking for au ra exclusive hair by on my Viera, all I want are the hairs EVERYONE already has.

I wouldn't mind some new racial hair for viera. Stuff that actually looks good. Its nice having some shared hairs though. When viera first came out, I was here on the forums hoping we would get access to unlockable or hairstyles we paid for in addition to the supposed promise of racial hairs.

[Bunnycake]

I just wonder how many man hours that required!

Nah, they would just make it weird like the 2b hair. Though I could see that excuse being made. Imagine adjusting models.

Could be. Depends on forehead.

My favorite racial exclusive is the singular hair I use on au ra. I would like to have that hairstyle available, although I don't know about making racial hairstyles non-exclusive.


They do not. Miqo'te ears are cut off now in hats, for example. Capes are constant, and the tail clipping is horrific. Outfit pieces are made for hyur.

Miqo'te aren't being catered to though. Miqo'te get their racial features removed, same with au ra. Of course viera and hrothgar have it worse, but still.

Hairstyles can make or break a face, ESPECIALLY in this game. With viera, they look great, but we need more variety, and options for sure.

Agreed.

I wouldn't mind some new racial hair for viera. Stuff that actually looks good. Its nice having some shared hairs though. When viera first came out, I was here on the forums hoping we would get access to unlockable or hairstyles we paid for in addition to the supposed promise of racial hairs.

I misread racial hair as facial hair. I really want a stubble on my Viera damnit despite having his mouth covered like Wilson from Home Improvement.

[Allegor]

I misread racial hair as facial hair. I really want a stubble on my Viera damnit despite having his mouth covered like Wilson from Home Improvement.

Viera are a bishonen race so I'm surprised they gave them any facial hair at all, but dear God they are so bad, like literally 'grab fake eyelashes and glue them to your chin' bad.

[Bunnycake]

Viera are a bishonen race so I'm surprised they gave them any facial hair at all, but dear God they are so bad, like literally 'grab fake eyelashes and glue them to your chin' bad.

LOL oh geez they do seem like that now that you mentioned it

[Otter_McTobbs]

personally, they really shouldve prioritized cashshop hairs first. YES its scummy to be like "Hey you're finally getting hair ohp oop you gotta pay extra" but considering they do come with costumes, and considering how much the playerbase fantas, not screwing people out of hair they've owned since like heavensward should've been the goal.

Yeah it would have been wise for them to do that. I don’t plan on buying anything for a while on the mog store because of that and the fact they don’t make any of the hats work on the two races.

[Tehmon]

Viera facial hair is disastrous. Why did they turn out so weird when the rest of the races have perfectly fine facial hair looking facial hair?
The facial hair on face 4 looks pretty okay but ONLY if you dye it very light/just straight up white, it looks less like it's painted on that way especially if you're already going with a fair skintone.

[AetherHale]

Am I excited for 2 more hairstyles? Yes, absolutely, thank you. 6 allegedly? Even better. Have they said anything about letting us wear more hats/helms? it seems annoying to look at the premium items and squint around to make sure it doesn't say "You can't wear the hat"

[Caro178]

Am I excited for 2 more hairstyles? Yes, absolutely, thank you. 6 allegedly? Even better. Have they said anything about letting us wear more hats/helms? it seems annoying to look at the premium items and squint around to make sure it doesn't say "You can't wear the hat"

They've been silent on headgear all expansion, but there has been a visible (imo) attempt to resize more hats. Island Sanctuary is bringing a visor cap that functions on Viera and presumably Hrothgar, and that'll fill a nice niche.



I suspect if headgear integration happens it will be a gradual process after all the hairstyles are ported and maybe after female Hrothgar are added. We've just gotta wait to see what they say during the gap between 6.5 and 7.0. They're well aware of the problem, it's just not something they're actively working to rectify right now. In time it might become a project.