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    People actually can't get into their homes today because too many people are on islands. Islands are affecting houses. This strongly implies that the islands share the same resources as the homes/neighborhoods.
    Before today, the prevailing argument for "why can everyone get an island, but not a house?" was that islands were wholly divorced from the housing setup. "It's a new system!" they said. "It's not anchored to the housing system!" they said. "It utilizes different resources, less resources!" they said. Yet here it is, clearly sharing the same resources as the homes and neighborhoods, since too many people in islands = people can't get into their houses.

    Days like today are why I want Square to actually say why we can't have instanced housing. Players can guess at the reason all they like, but it's obvious that none of us know a thing about the inner workings of the game, and square's limitations seem to change with the wind. "Not enough resources!" say the people who don't even represent the company or know what's going on behind closed doors. You say "stop asking for instanced housing." I'd say "stop pretending to know why Square can or can't implement content." Let the 2 billion dollar company speak for itself.
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    Game companies generally don't speak for themselves on unsettled matters because people will twist literally anything they say.

    It's certainly presumptive to argue that it can't be a resource problem when we've now hit the instance cap on populated servers three patches in a row, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindele View Post
    Game companies generally don't speak for themselves on unsettled matters because people will twist literally anything they say.

    It's certainly presumptive to argue that it can't be a resource problem when we've now hit the instance cap on populated servers three patches in a row, though.
    Yoshi speaks candidly in interviews all the time, though. Furthermore, I'm not saying it can't be a resource problem. I'm saying I'm tired of random dudes on the internet telling me why Square's not able to do things, while square remains pretty quiet on it for years or says things years ago that no longer seem to be the case today, making those points feel irrelevant now. Like several years ago they gave an interview where they talked about how there was a resource problem behind why we couldn't have better housing. Is that still a problem today? Some assumed it was. But now everyone's got a private island, so maybe they changed something or found a better way to do things. Who knows! You don't know. I don't know. None of us here know.

    If anyone's being presumptive here, it's people who tell other users on a forum that they don't own or moderate not to post feedback to devs based on their own limited understanding of a situation (eg. the OP; and this isn't like a dig at the op, we ALL have a limited understanding on this, that's my point). I'll keep asking for instanced housing until we get a statement from people who actually work at the company, and it might annoy people or w/e but there's literally nothing anyone can do about it. If yoshi came out and said tomorrow "hey we can't do it" or they even briefly mentioned like "yeah the housing is screwed it cant be helped" in a live letter, I'd stop asking about it and just advocate for something else instead like more wards (since we've seen them add these in the past).

    tldr i won't accept no from anyone but the people actually running the game
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    Last edited by Avoidy; 08-24-2022 at 03:53 PM. Reason: i keep adding more to this but I'll stop now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    Yoshi speaks candidly in interviews all the time, though. Furthermore, I'm not saying it can't be a resource problem. I'm saying I'm tired of random dudes on the internet telling me why Square's not able to do things, while square remains pretty quiet on it for years or says things years ago that no longer seem to be the case today, making those points feel irrelevant now. Like several years ago they gave an interview where they talked about how there was a resource problem behind why we couldn't have better housing. Is that still a problem today? Some assumed it was. But now everyone's got a private island, so maybe they changed something or found a better way to do things. Who knows! You don't know. I don't know. None of us here know.

    If anyone's being presumptive here, it's people who tell other users on a forum that they don't own or moderate not to post feedback to devs based on their own limited understanding of a situation (eg. the OP; and this isn't like a dig at the op, we ALL have a limited understanding on this, that's my point). I'll keep asking for instanced housing until we get a statement from people who actually work at the company, and it might annoy people or w/e but there's literally nothing anyone can do about it. If yoshi came out and said tomorrow "hey we can't do it" or they even briefly mentioned like "yeah the housing is screwed it cant be helped" in a live letter, I'd stop asking about it and just advocate for something else instead like more wards (since we've seen them add these in the past).

    tldr i won't accept no from anyone but the people actually running the game
    Pretty easy if they would add the Houses which Balmongians demands and within their current setup likely 90% all of those Houses would be a wasteland on JP Worlds and even on EU Worlds. No one in clear mind would introduce wards and new housing areas which are going to stay empty for months or years.

    Squares solution will be new DC. You may like the approach or not to spread the playercount through more worlds but Balmung and their even for NA unique situation is an anomaly.

    Sigh. We should ask Daddy Yoshi to move Balmung and Mateus to a whole new DC with a forced split of the existing characters on those worlds decided by RNG and 1 year block from character transfer. Maybe the playerbase will be then spread out instead for all going "But mah RP" only to 2 worlds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    People actually can't get into their homes today because too many people are on islands. Islands are affecting houses. This strongly implies that the islands share the same resources as the homes/neighborhoods.
    Before today, the prevailing argument for "why can everyone get an island, but not a house?" was that islands were wholly divorced from the housing setup. "It's a new system!" they said. "It's not anchored to the housing system!" they said. "It utilizes different resources, less resources!" they said. Yet here it is, clearly sharing the same resources as the homes and neighborhoods, since too many people in islands = people can't get into their houses.

    Days like today are why I want Square to actually say why we can't have instanced housing. Players can guess at the reason all they like, but it's obvious that none of us know a thing about the inner workings of the game, and square's limitations seem to change with the wind. "Not enough resources!" say the people who don't even represent the company or know what's going on behind closed doors. You say "stop asking for instanced housing." I'd say "stop pretending to know why Square can or can't implement content." Let the 2 billion dollar company speak for itself.
    The same Notices talking about the instance congestion issues also points out that the NA and EU servers are seeing online populations in general reaching server cap yesterday. Everyone wants to see the new patch content so they're all jamming in at the same time.

    Wait two weeks when everyone who has finished 6.0 MSQ and it won't be a problem until the next time there's a major content release with updates for Island Sanctuary and everyone wants to cram into their Sanctuary the same time. It's really no different from the log-in queues we get for expansion release. Things are crowded at first then gradually activity drops back down.

    If people spread out into the new worlds being added, such problems are less likely to happen. I suspect those on the 4 new EU worlds weren't having this problem yesterday. Of course the reality is that few will move to a new world - most expect others to make the move so they don't have to.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 08-25-2022 at 12:11 AM.