Ninja at 66 feels more complex than Samurai at 90

[RaevusAstra]

Y'all really missed the mark with this one. For the record, I didn't even disagree that Kaiten shouldn't have been removed. In fact I've definitely said before I wanted Kaiten back as well, and 100% agree it adds to job feel and fantasy. In fact if they wanted to make iajutsu auto crit, they should've just attached it to Kaiten. It's countering the ridiculousness of OPs statement, which is hyperbolic and comes from a place of feelings about these changes. Saying things like "none of the changes benefit anyone" and "there's zero depth" surely isn't true, but again, all this vitriol because a job skill you liked is gone is exactly proving my point in the end.

Ofc, my comment wasn't even about Kaiten in the first place, it was about how you could have fun optimizing the Job even in its current state.

But go off y'all.

[Rekun]

Y'all really missed the mark with this one. For the record, I didn't even disagree that Kaiten shouldn't have been removed. In fact I've definitely said before I wanted Kaiten back as well, and 100% agree it adds to job feel and fantasy. In fact if they wanted to make iajutsu auto crit, they should've just attached it to Kaiten. It's countering the ridiculousness of OPs statement, which is hyperbolic and comes from a place of feelings about these changes. Saying things like "none of the changes benefit anyone" and "there's zero depth" surely isn't true, but again, all this vitriol because a job skill you liked is gone is exactly proving my point in the end.

Ofc, my comment wasn't even about Kaiten in the first place, it was about how you could have fun optimizing the Job even in its current state.

But go off y'all.

You do realize that all of the things you mentioned in defense of Samurai being 'deep' at level 90 are the same things they have to do at level 50, right? Hagakure isn't that deep, it's an ability you use to reset your Sen counter during desperation attacks or at the start of fights so you can essentially start your rotation from zero while not losing resources you've built up.

The idea that Samurai is 'deep' and complex without Kenki management is bogus, please don't dismiss my legitimate complaints and observations about the current state of Samurai as hyperbole and then sit there and act like the victim when people call you out on it.

[RaevusAstra]

Okay sure. Have fun playing with your deep and complex lv 66 Nin rotation. Done with these forum threads.