White Mage Attraction

[AmiableApkallu]

You can't blame players for learning how a game works and adapting their behavior to be better at it -- that is the point of playing a game.

Yes and no. I can certainly appreciate healers determining how best to play the game as it is given to them, and I can still insist that it's a travesty that they don't fight harder to demand that the game evolve (or return to its roots -- apologies for having played FFXIV for ~1 year) so that their nominal role be valued.

[Supersnow845]

Yes and no. I can certainly appreciate healers determining how best to play the game as it is given to them, and I can still insist that it's a travesty that they don't fight harder to demand that the game evolve (or return to its roots -- apologies for having played FFXIV for ~1 year) so that their nominal role be valued.

It’s not like 14 healers wouldn’t want more healing, ask any savage 14 healer who Parses even a green what they think is wrong with healers and you’ll get 2 answers

-damage is too boring
-there isn’t enough healing to justify my kit

The first one is both the homogenisation of healer DPS and a facet of the second one, we would be happy to accept more healing if it was actually introduced but we instead are forced to ask for more DPS options because square utterly refuses to raise the amount of healing needed in the game to the point where you don’t even need a regen healer till like phase 6 of a current ultimate even in chill level parties

Give us one or give us both but currently we are stuck with neither

[Rilifane]

Yes and no. I can certainly appreciate healers determining how best to play the game as it is given to them, and I can still insist that it's a travesty that they don't fight harder to demand that the game evolve (or return to its roots -- apologies for having played FFXIV for ~1 year) so that their nominal role be valued.

Except that healers of all gameplay levels asked for more to heal for years.
We got told to wait until next tier or next expansion but nothing changed until Yoshi finally went on record saying that no, they're not going to increase incoming damage because muh poor stressed baby healers ~<3.

The reason why healers ask for better downtime gameplay is because every other attempt at making healers more engaging was ignored or met with flippant dismissal and excuses. Want a recent example? "Go play Ultimate" - except that Ultimate is and never was a heal check, it was always about mitigation and execution, not to mention it's only the tiniest fraction of battle content in this game and playing Ultimate would do nothing to improve the experience in solo duties, fates, treasure maps, dungeons, normal raids, alli raids, extremes and savage.
If we were lucky enough to even get acknowledged we got a tone-deaf answer or were met with flippant dismissal.

Good healers don't say that GCD heals are a dps loss because they don't want to heal. They say that GCD heals are a dps loss because pointless GCD heals are and a GCD heal is pointless when you have literally anything else available. If you use Medica II when Aslyum or waiting for Assize would've done the trick, you simply wasted a GCD and that has nothing to with not wanting to heal and everything to do with healing efficiently. So linking the fflogs calculations of rDPS, aDPS and nDPS proves nothing.

As long as the devs don't give healers a good reason to use GCD heals of course they won't. Why would anyone want to play intentionally worse?

lso please make another healer accessible at level 1, having so many threads where people ask for “what’s the best starting healing” and as an experienced healers you know WHM is the worst to start with because it teaches all the wrong habits but having to level something else up to get another healer when they can just pick CNJ massively biases WHM for no other reason than outdated game design

Preach.
Every time someone recommends playing CNJ/ WHM because it's sooo easssyyy :3 and starts at lv 1, I die a bit inside. It's the worst healer for learning by a huge margin.

[Punslinger]

Yes and no. I can certainly appreciate healers determining how best to play the game as it is given to them, and I can still insist that it's a travesty that they don't fight harder to demand that the game evolve (or return to its roots -- apologies for having played FFXIV for ~1 year) so that their nominal role be valued.

We have. Repeatedly. There is a 130-page healer quit thread going back three years. There is an 81-page thread with a very detailed, and repeatedly-updated first post outlining everything wrong with healers in FF14: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-healer-issues.

YoshiderP has instead said that he doesn't want to "stress" healers by making fights that require them to do their job. He kicked the healer off of his internal play-testing team for being "too good" (note: said healer was just starting to clear EXs, while BLM-maining YoshiderP parses orange in Savage). He has made it abundantly clear that he wants healing to be the Little Timmy role, the one you give to the slow kid in the FC so that he can feel like he's contributing, without worrying that he'll mess up and hold you back from clearing. It has an absurd amount of healing to deal with a pathetic amount of incoming damage, and it isn't allowed to have more than two DPS buttons, because that would fry Sylphie's brain, and then Sylphie would get mad that she no longer gets a free carry just for putting a green icon next to her name.