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    Player SentioftheHoukai's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Because it is all relativism, what you are effectively asking for, or at the very least advocating for with this sentiment is a very long history of indoctrination to effectively be annulled in a very short period of time. The world is vast so that isn't happening. They have already made it pretty clear through the story that it is no longer as simple as black and white and leaves it up to your own perception to determine who was right, and who was wrong. - The game doesn't need to tell you that.

    We weren't exactly heading into Endwalker as "OOOO the big bad Zodiark" - This was practically tossed out the window courtesy of the lecture as provided by Emet-Selch in Rak'tika. The only basis for us going after him and subsequently viewing him as bad was just due to external factors (e.g., Zenos and Fandaniel wanting to suckle his power)

    Edit: Just as I have said enablement from a third party factor is not an absolvent, otherwise ultimately the stick-pointing game would be, and should be put in the direction of Hermes.
    None of this matters, it's all lazy excuses from Yoshida anyway. It's not moral relativism either, not when we the Warrior of Light are canonically writing the Unending Codex (Tataru tells us to begin writing a Journal so we won't forget things from now on, after which the Unending Codex starts gaining entries) which says Hydaelyn was the Will of the Star (when in reality she stole it from Zodiark before his ashes had even begun to cool) the entire time and is responsible for everything good about the Sundered world. Considering this, and the way the Omega quest ended on a Hydaelyn-positive message anyways (The motto of "FORGE AHEAD" being mouthpieced at us at the end, why was rando alien planet's recording aware of Hydaelyn's arc words anyway? More propaganda from the devs, becuz ofc) as well as Loporrits dancing on Zodiark's grave its hard NOT to think a vast majority of 6.2 is a metaphor for Yoshida's middle finger waving flagrantly in the face of any who cared even the slightest bit about the Ancients. We don't want a giant retcon of the lore, we just want some people in game to give a shit that Hydaelyn effectively erased an entire planet's worth of people. Instead, we get to cover it up.

    I've been going over and reviewing some of the lines we heard from the Scions in Shadowbringers, and frankly if the Scions retained ANY of their previous characterization from the aforementioned expansion they should have had MAJOR issues with how Hydaelyn did things, but they don't. Ergo, they're Out of Character. Alphinaud's rumination on the erasing of history and the value of being remembered by one's loved ones, Y'shtola's rebuking and condemnation of Emet-Selch's mass murder and genocide, Thancred's confident declaration that he would NEVER accept an Ascian's assistance after all the suffering their kind has wrought. All of this flies completely in the face of the way they act in Endwalker, and their refusal to look at Hydaelyn through the same lens of looking glass. It's insulting to one's intelligence to think Yoshida thought we would not notice these discrepancies. He may as well have called us Autist Retards directly to our faces.
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    Last edited by SentioftheHoukai; 08-16-2022 at 11:22 PM. Reason: Suffering overtakes me, and the kiln boils over with hate. DEAL. WITH. IT.