Predictions from the Patch 6.2 Trailer & Patch Website

[RicaRuin]

I would be very salty if we restore the Void in the MSQ, because that's what Cylva and Unukalhai want to do and since they're locked behind both a Trial line plus Extremes and all of the Shadowbringers Role Quests, they'll never be added to MSQ.

[SentioftheHoukai]

Let me just preface this by saying I agree that's a plausible if not probable conclusion given foreshadowing is rarely subtle in this game and I have a tendency to overthink. That said...



The "dream" at the beginning of 6.1 is, as far as we can tell, just a "Meanwhile, in the Void..." scene like we get repeatedly during Shadowbringers (and occasionally during Endwalker).

Our contact with Ardbert (who was nothing more than a soul at that point; Reaper Lady still has a body, just twisted by excess Astral / Dark aether) was the beginning of a rejoining, more like than not; he only does so again when going through with it, so I don't know where the idea that coming into contact with Voidsent Reaper Lady will rebalance her soul and mend her mangled body comes from (porxies can plausibly fix the former, the latter has yet to be remedied at any point through any method).

Zenos was able to steal our body due to our soul having been ripped out and stuffed into a random Garlean soldier by way of Aulus' technology and Zenos' mastery of the Echo allowing him to use the same powers as the Ascians to body surf. It only works for a limited time because Aulus' tech doesn't last forever, but.

Nobody attempted to possess Ardbert's corpse before Elidibus did so; presumably any of the Ancients could have done so before he rejoined with the PC, but there was never reason to. And given he was physically dead for a century his body should have been in a state of significant decay, but that's neither here nor there.

Rest is jumping to conclusions...

I'm not so sure about that. I think Raiya may actually be onto something here. Why else would we get the "Meanwhile...." cutscene after we doze off for seemingly no reason during Tataru's words? Seems like enough to build a speculation on to me.

Also, unless I'm mistaken we don't actually GET a "Meanwhile" subtitle for that particular scene which breaks the previously established mold already.

I would be very salty if we restore the Void in the MSQ, because that's what Cylva and Unukalhai want to do and since they're locked behind both a Trial line plus Extremes and all of the Shadowbringers Role Quests, they'll never be added to MSQ.

Same. I really don't want them to magically fix the Void in the patch content. That'd be a total waste of a good potential plotline. If they can make an expansion out of the The First (which had arguably LESS landmass to include) then can we not get one of The Thirteenth as well? Please and thank you, Yoshida and Square?

[JeanneOrnitier]

I can't see them fixing the Void here for several reasons:
-That feels like it'd be a main expansion goal if it ever does happen, not a patch. Especially not a x.2 patch, when big climaxes are usually x.3 and x.5.
-It would remove Voidsent as easy antagonists to use for future storylines.
-As Rica said, that's what the Unukalhai and Cylva questline set up at the end of ShB is about, so doing it here would just leave them dry.

[Cilia]

I'm not so sure about that. I think Raiya may actually be onto something here. Why else would we get the "Meanwhile...." cutscene after we doze off for seemingly no reason during Tataru's words? Seems like enough to build a speculation on to me.

Also, unless I'm mistaken we don't actually GET a "Meanwhile" subtitle for that particular scene which breaks the previously established mold already.

The PC implicitly falls asleep because they're just waiting for Tataru to finish the Wayfarer's set she's making for them.

We don't get a "Meanwhile..." scene here because it's meant to portray the passage of time. The scene could be interpreted as a dream, but it's replayed and extended later in 6.1, this time without either the "Meanwhile..." framing or the plausible explanation that it's a dream. It just happens, no context.

I'm not saying this isn't an in-universe dream (it might be), but either way taking it as evidence Voidsent Reaper Woman is an inheritor of an "Azem" soul fragment is jumping to a conclusion. The foreshadowing is rarely subtle in this game and I have a tendency to overthink, but it's natural to try and draw connections even when they aren't necessarily there - there was rampant speculation Unukalhai was the Azem fragment from the Thirteenth, though aside from an optional scene that plays if you've completed the Warring Triad quests he's been forgotten by the narrative, just as an example.

[Kesey]

While I don't believe the Void will be restored at any point, the fact the characters are leaning heavily into riftwalking suggests 7.0 might spirit us away to another reflection. Just why I couldn't say, and given Yoshi-P said the lead-in to 7.0 won't come until 6.5 I doubt we'll have an answer any time soon.

Or maybe it will be Meracydia or the New World. Leaning toward the former due to its connection to dragons and Vrtra's apparent prominence in the 6.x story.

Yeah, it could easily be "Hey you did all you can do for the void for now. But while you were gone, "expansion area" went from bad to worse."

Furthermore, I believe we shouldn't expect what we are doing now and what we will be presented to be 7.0 to feel connected. If they are connected, even loosely, that will only manifest well into the 7.0 storyline.

[Lyth]

I wouldn't expect any sort of resolution to the Void story now. That's the long term goal for this story arc. But you can't simply introduce the Void into the story at the eleventh hour without explaining how it works or why we should care about it. We've seen a few interesting points already from the trailer itself. We've suspected that the Voidsent are afflicted with the curse of the Black Pearl, in a manner of speaking, but this seems to confirm that they can't return to the lifestream. I also note that Scarm cannibalizes his fallen ally for aether, much like Diabolos does to Scathach in Dun Scaithe. It makes me wonder if the Voidal Hierarchy is a function of how much aether you've accrued by defeating other Voidsent, much like an endless PvP tournament.

While restoring the Thirteenth is an admirable goal, I don't think that they can resolve this in a way that restores all the Voidsent to their previous forms. After all, we have at least one job already that relies on Voidsent and the Void as a central mechanic. It'll be interesting to see how this gets resolved. I doubt we'll see anything conclusive around this for a few expansions, much like Ardbert and the plight of the First was introduced a couple of expansions before that storyline actually became front and center. I'd expect conflict to break out in Corvos in a few patches with a shift to the Garleans leading into next expansion.

[Vyrerus]

If you pause the trailer right at 2:32 then you'll see this.



That woman definitely becomes part of that tree, though I suppose she's just an imprint on the bark. Looks like she's in a lot of pain.

I suppose, as was introduced with Lahabrea, she could be a previous Halmarut or maybe even the next in line?

[Denishia]

wonder if the fused tree form will be a Savage Phase only...

[Cleretic]

wonder if the fused tree form will be a Savage Phase only...

Have they ever introduced a Savage exclusive form in a trailer?

I'm guessing not, from the same rule I've pointed out earlier that they never show the end boss of something, and the only Savage raids with new forms are the leg-enders.

[RyuDragnier]

Is it just me, or does that boss remind anybody else of Yunalesca from FFX?