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    Player
    Axxion's Avatar
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    Equinox Axxion
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    That's button bloat. With the changes to Sam in 6.0, kaiten became action bloat.

    6.0 is what ruined Sam. Not 6.1
    I was more towards the hotbar scenario or they can take a few skills and have it combo right back of each other. Im just asking question to get a better understanding
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Sagittarius
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Axxion View Post
    And this is what i do not understand. you saying that its action bloat but then you put in shoha 2. to me common sense whould had just upgrade shoha to shoha 2 and just add the aoe effect. Like how they did it with pladins spirts within to Expiacion
    I would have just merged Tsubame Gaeshi with the Iajutsu, to be honest. Many classes can already flip between actions, so there is no real reason why it can't be applied, and, well... You can only use Gaeshi immediately following an Iajutsu anyway. But yes, you could just have placed Shoha II as a job trait and then have it as something like "Delivers an attack to all nearby enemies with a potency of 520 for the first enemy and 200 for all remaining enemies". In general, these feel much less inconsequential.
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    Tetsujin's Avatar
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    Thymos Helmsplitter
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    Ultros
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    It's noted in one of those many threads that Kaiten wasn't working with additions they had planned, so it was really less about dumbing things down and more about making sure things functioned as intended. There's no denying the flow is different, but you'll be getting the same result, if not something better. If people need to be sad about it, go cry in a corner or something. Don't start harassing others who are genuinely enjoying it (with a fresh perspective no less).

    The hard truth is none of your past experiences matter to those of us who haven't been there. You've no right to attack or try to deny people their joy or difference of opinion.
    So they replace it with nothing and leaves us hanging, apparently lie about feedback, and go diddle with the rest of the kit. For some reason. Sick. 10/10, amazing change and big effort!
    If results were what matters most, we'd all have the braindead SMN rotations that play themselves I hear so much about. Well, maybe that's our future given how this is going.

    Edit: I saw what you added after the post. I haven't attacked anyone, but people sure as hell seem bothered that I (admittedly, erroneously) announced my departure based on the reasons I did.
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    Last edited by Tetsujin; 08-13-2022 at 05:04 AM.

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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    If people need to be sad about it, go cry in a corner or something.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    You've no right to attack or try to deny people their joy or difference of opinion.
    Read what you just wrote.
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    Player AwesomeJr44's Avatar
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    Marel Nobelle
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I remember back in my day when this thread was about a live letter. Then all the youngin's came in and made it a SAM change thread.
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    I remember back in my day when this thread was about a live letter. Then all the youngin's came in and made it a SAM change thread.
    It fits with the liveletter itself. I watched with Youtube and there was one person who constantly went on about the samurai skill. So its not a surprise seeing this happening here too.

    About the live letter itself:

    I am sorry Adult Vritra but I have no time for the void. Gonna tame animals and harvest stuff. I might go out to do the daily Omekron quests because those look awesome too.

    Also cant wait to see the dance number.

    So I loved it and wished that the patch was out next week because I cant wait to play it.
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    Faux Ears
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    Warrior Lv 100
    These are some cool Live Letter thoughts.
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Sanctuary looked neat, a lot of farm features . Hopefully the system has some useful external items, like you don't hit the end of the road with no purpose to collect more tokens for, and one of the facilities we can build has some sort of homely feature akin to an inn room. That'd be super cool. The huge freaking windmill was already impressive lol. I appreciate thoughtful touches like being able to revert to a previous design. All good signs they took the content seriously and didn't hold much back (worried about the reward value dying out once you get the neat rare / ex stuff, but until we see the list it's just a concern). Hope they're imagining all the neat things they might add and do for the island, every 2 patches new content is a good sign and so I'm hopeful it'll be good content piece.

    Liked the fancy raid gear but given it's savage it looks like I'll not get to enjoy it for a long while, at least last I tried DF savage was akin to customer service job in a high rude customer industry... lots and lots of head banging on wall as the healer out DPSes half the DD team, you keep dying to shared mechanics that impact each other, etc- an exercise in patience.. (and I don't like / usually have time to dedicate to more than one session to make PF make sense).

    Dungeons and new content in general looks interesting. I had wanted to have some Sil'Dihn content for a while :3..
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    AnnaUK's Avatar
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    Baby Qween
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    Spriggan
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    Dancer Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    For the time being I lean slightly more towards excited
    Tough crowd
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    Marel Nobelle
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaUK View Post
    Tough crowd
    The player base should be a tough crowd to please. When the player base demands quality, they receive quality. When the player base is lenient, they receive mediocrity.
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