Pvp is perfectly balanced as is.....

[GordonGeeko]

Everything is far from perfect, I'm actually one of the worst critics of SE when it comes to PVP.

But you came in expecting people to agree with you that everything is unbalanced and being sarcastic about people not climbing being trash, while if you have not made it to Crystal yet and play more than one game every few days, you are indeed, very much likely trash.

Job balance is not perfect, it will never be, but it's really not in the bad spot that some people seem to think it is. I see people do well on all the jobs (except maybe Reaper).

[Oni_Akuma]

If you current skill level is low and don't understand the entire game, from coding, to snapshots and relatively anything. Do you think you deserve to rank? Especially in the easiest reform of PvP in its entire history of 7 or 8 years. Then its the players fault for not being a gamer, and more of an unskilled whiner.

It is only balanced for CC.. So the match is entirely goes in favor of skill. But I don't want to hear it as balanced all round. Failure to understand the removed mathematics that go over 95% of the player base and they want easier content?!


Current pvp is a laughing stock. Lack of almost everything to cater to unskilled players and for them to still compain. I adapted but it doesn't mean I don't like it. It is again, the worst iteration of pvp to get many players involved for its simplicity.

I could rant about this, but the gods of pvp all think this mode and abilities are a joke

[ThaCa]

Didn't someone post the public achievement data from Season 1 which showed half the ranked people ended up in Crystal? The system is built to push anyone up who puts in some time, even fairly bad players can reach Crystal but it will just take more games until they get lucky streak.

[GordonGeeko]

RPR isn't hard to get into Crystal. I climbed on my alt from scratch this season and I'm currently sitting in Diamond 4 with around 45 wins. Once you stop thinking RPR is just about damage because it's a DPS, the job makes more sense.

I don't want to go too much into details on it, because I'm avoiding playing that job like the plague, so I'd be mostly speaking out of my a**. I've just seen so many people struggle to do anything significant with it outside of some game-changing Overtime plays or maybe some well-timed Guard breaks with their LBs.

At one point, if all the reapers I see are low damage, low kills, high deaths, low HP restored, few significant LBs, I start to doubt that everyone is just bad at it and think that maybe the job is just not that great. It doesn't look like an easy climb to Crystal to me, but I'm not saying it's an impossible one.

[MonteCristo]

RPR isn't hard to get into Crystal. I climbed on my alt from scratch this season and I'm currently sitting in Diamond 4 with around 45 wins solely using RPR.

Once you stop thinking RPR is just about damage because it's a DPS, the job makes more sense.

Im at diamond 4 as well and well aware its a hybrid tank at this point. Ffxiv Pvp is not complicated...

[MonteCristo]

Everything is far from perfect, I'm actually one of the worst critics of SE when it comes to PVP.

But you came in expecting people to agree with you that everything is unbalanced and being sarcastic about people not climbing being trash, while if you have not made it to Crystal yet and play more than one game every few days, you are indeed, very much likely trash.

Job balance is not perfect, it will never be, but it's really not in the bad spot that some people seem to think it is. I see people do well on all the jobs (except maybe Reaper).

Im a reaper main....

[MonteCristo]

I don't want to go too much into details on it, because I'm avoiding playing that job like the plague, so I'd be mostly speaking out of my a**. I've just seen so many people struggle to do anything significant with it outside of some game-changing Overtime plays or maybe some well-timed Guard breaks with their LBs.

At one point, if all the reapers I see are low damage, low kills, high deaths, low HP restored, few significant LBs, I start to doubt that everyone is just bad at it and think that maybe the job is just not that great. It doesn't look like an easy climb to Crystal to me, but I'm not saying it's an impossible one.

I have been playing reaper exclusively since new pvp dropped and it has been hell to say the least....i just didnt lead with my main when i started this discussion because there are other issues more important than just reaper and to read "dev team is ok with season 2 balance" leads me to believe this might be close to definitive.

[Petite]

I don't want to go too much into details on it, because I'm avoiding playing that job like the plague, so I'd be mostly speaking out of my a**. I've just seen so many people struggle to do anything significant with it outside of some game-changing Overtime plays or maybe some well-timed Guard breaks with their LBs.

At one point, if all the reapers I see are low damage, low kills, high deaths, low HP restored, few significant LBs, I start to doubt that everyone is just bad at it and think that maybe the job is just not that great. It doesn't look like an easy climb to Crystal to me, but I'm not saying it's an impossible one.

I used to think the same way you do. Over my time on RPR, I started noticing my misconceptions about how to gauge how well someone performed on it:

- Low damage is expected because it almost exclusively comes from single-target attacks. SCH and SGE deal monstrous amounts of damage, yet you woulnd't say they're OP for it?
- Kills is a mediocre metric to gauge contribution. Seeing a NIN or MNK with a low kill count is much more of a cause for concern.
- LB can single-handedly win matches in the right situations, though it's still easier said than done (especially with this netcode).

A high death count is a definite red flag though. RPR is tanky and can teleport out of harms way very easily. You shouldn't be dying often, even on losing teams.

Most RPRs are bad because they treat it like it's a DRG or SAM and don't bother looking for its gameplan. Being a DRG main, I can confidently say that RPR has a lot going for it.

[Petite]

Im at diamond 4 as well and well aware its a hybrid tank at this point. Ffxiv Pvp is not complicated...

Yet nigh every post you make complains about RPR's struggles while I'm cruising along ranks on that same job and enjoying myself.

It's fine to suggest and discuss changes, but your complaining is contemptible. Get over it.

[MonteCristo]

Yet nigh every post you make complains about RPR's struggles while I'm cruising along ranks on that same job, enjoying myself on my alt.

It's fine to suggest and discuss changes, but your constant complaining is contemptible. Get over it.

Im allowed to have an opinion and could care less about yours. Nobody held a gun to your head and said you have to read or comment on my post. If I trigger you that badly its simple...ignore it just like the devs do english forums lol. PS -in regards to cruising.... i dont believe you to be brutally honest.