The feeling of beeing Home ...

[Eldtagg]

Yes. During Heavensward. Not during Endwalker.

Heavensward is still my favorite MSQ

[BRVV]

We time travel, get plot fed by Echo, have dynamis plot armor, un-death our friends to defeat a villain that came back to life and thankfully never bothered to actually attack our friends. During the "Apocalypse" we ate burgers and showed a bunny what grapes look like. Nothing has meaning. There are no stakes in the plot anymore.

[Jagick]

I know the feeling OP. I'm still on the Moon in Endwalker because the fact that after so much build up the Zodiark "fight" was basically just Fandaniel in cosplay who ended up getting "Snoked" barely half way into Endwalker killed all motivation to continue, never-mind my many other grievances with Endwalker. I especially agree with your disappointment with Garlemald. Ten years of suffering at their hands and I was finally looking forward to a counter invasion and payback. Nope. They destroy themselves off camera and now we have to go help those poor souls, oh, and we better not hurt ANY of their soldiers or else the literal elezen children commanding this operation will frown and clench their fists at us.

[Raoabolic]

I know the feeling OP. I'm still on the Moon in Endwalker because the fact that after so much build up the Zodiark "fight" was basically just Fandaniel in cosplay who ended up getting "Snoked" barely half way into Endwalker killed all motivation to continue, never-mind my many other grievances with Endwalker. I especially agree with your disappointment with Garlemald. Ten years of suffering at their hands and I was finally looking forward to a counter invasion and payback. Nope. They destroy themselves off camera and now we have to go help those poor souls, oh, and we better not hurt ANY of their soldiers or else the literal elezen children commanding this operation will frown and clench their fists at us.

TO BE FAIR, they do tie up the Garlemand thing during the role quest finale in EW. I don't want to paint your perception one way or another but it is something to look at!

[Shikiseki]

I was hoping that at the end of 6.0, we'd go on a new adventure on our own and not have the scions dictate the story yet again. I really like the cast don't get me wrong, 6.0 felt like a great closure on pretty much every character so I was quite disappointed to see the wheel spin yet anew with the same old cast.

As for the story and character writing, they could really look at their own ranks like Octopath Traveller, which the recent mobile game actually outdone most of the cast we see in just 4 little chapters...
There was a reason the ancients were liked infinitely more than the scions because we had a connection with others for the first time and they felt like our gang - that party dynamic is what I wanted to see and find on our new adventure. The scions are the real limiting factor for the MSQ atm...

They can stay as side story content but it's about time to let them go already

[Deveryn]

I know the feeling OP. I'm still on the Moon in Endwalker because the fact that after so much build up the Zodiark "fight" was basically just Fandaniel in cosplay who ended up getting "Snoked" barely half way into Endwalker killed all motivation to continue, never-mind my many other grievances with Endwalker. I especially agree with your disappointment with Garlemald. Ten years of suffering at their hands and I was finally looking forward to a counter invasion and payback. Nope. They destroy themselves off camera and now we have to go help those poor souls, oh, and we better not hurt ANY of their soldiers or else the literal elezen children commanding this operation will frown and clench their fists at us.

I've read about how Garlemald could've gone on longer, taking up a full expansion. I'm kinda glad it didn't, though it would've been cool to see Anima and the role finale as bigger fights. The whole thing would've dragged on for too long.

They didn't really destroy themselves off camera. We saw enough going on with things falling apart thanks to Zenos and later Fandaniel.

[Jagick]

I've read about how Garlemald could've gone on longer, taking up a full expansion. I'm kinda glad it didn't, though it would've been cool to see Anima and the role finale as bigger fights. The whole thing would've dragged on for too long.

They didn't really destroy themselves off camera. We saw enough going on with things falling apart thanks to Zenos and later Fandaniel.

We see a couple of cutscenes of a few faceless Garlean grunts chasing each other down on Magitek and arguing over who the new emperor should be while Zenos and Fandaniel just kind of let it happen. Eventually the tower tempers a lot of the Garleans at which point they continue to do more or less what they were before but as tempered zombies. We never actually get to be there as characters during the civil war though, we never get to really endure the tragedies (or get some well deserved revenge.) By the time we arrive in Garlemald it's all over, its a ruinous heap with a few survivors and a handful of roving drones. If you just beeline through the Main Story Quests you'll be in and out of the only zone related to Garlemald in a couple hours and be done with the zone completely.

I'd argue we didn't spend nearly enough time there, but that would require there actually be something more interesting to experience.

TO BE FAIR, they do tie up the Garlemand thing during the role quest finale in EW. I don't want to paint your perception one way or another but it is something to look at!

Why must you give me hope?! When you say role quest finale though, is this something you can experience with any role? Or is it similar to Shadowbringers where you get an additional bit of content (what you speak of for example) if you finish each of the role quests? I typically only play DPS classes as I do not enjoy healing or tanking.

[Raoabolic]

We see a couple of cutscenes of a few faceless Garlean grunts chasing each other down on Magitek and arguing over who the new emperor should be while Zenos and Fandaniel just kind of let it happen. Eventually the tower tempers a lot of the Garleans at which point they continue to do more or less what they were before but as tempered zombies. We never actually get to be there as characters during the civil war though, we never get to really endure the tragedies (or get some well deserved revenge.) By the time we arrive in Garlemald it's all over, its a ruinous heap with a few survivors and a handful of roving drones. If you just beeline through the Main Story Quests you'll be in and out of the only zone related to Garlemald in a couple hours and be done with the zone completely.

I'd argue we didn't spend nearly enough time there, but that would require there actually be something more interesting to experience.

Too bad the WoL doesn't have a convenient ability to see other's memories to the point the WoL can somehow experience them firsthand. :/

Why must you give me hope?! When you say role quest finale though, is this something you can experience with any role? Or is it similar to Shadowbringers where you get an additional bit of content (what you speak of for example) if you finish each of the role quests? I typically only play DPS classes as I do not enjoy healing or tanking

It's the questline that opens up AFTER you finish the other role quests. All I will say is that it will answer some questions about a couple of key Garlean players. If you need a quick healer then you can get one by leveling SMN since your SCH levels up with it. As for leveling tank, you could always cheese it by hitting up PotD until 50, get some poetic gear and knock out a MSQ roulette while spamming PotD/HoH and doing your wonderous tales. Once you hit 71 unlock Bozja/Zandor and fate farm to 90!

[MalakRevan]

What'dya mean there's no "edgy pro-Venat Hydaelyn Trance" comics?! It's called canon Final Fantasy XIV. I can't browse Google for literally anything regarding this MMO without running into mountains of Venat fanart, some of it veering rather disturbing into borderline sexual content involving Venat and player's Warrior of Light. Considering all this, it's rather odd that some seem all too eager to gear up in their arms and armour the moment any pro-Zodiark art surfaces out the ether.

Also, that Discord exists because those who don't worship Momma's feet aren't often particularly welcome here on these forums. Every now and then, some of us players like to discuss what we do and don't like without our threads that we went out of our way to separate from y'all's to not disturb you getting invaded and brigaded by those that could'a just chosen to stay away from said thread (kinda like some on here tell us to consider, eh?). This is no crime, and I don't believe for a second there are no pro-Venat Discords out there. I'm sure there are Plenty (hah! It's a pun!) out there, just because you haven't seen any hardly means they don't exist.

STAND BACK! I'M BEGINNING TO ZORB!

[Hysterior]

I would leave the Game but right now I have 9 Full Retainers, paid for nearly 80 Days, and nearly 80 Days paid Gametime. So what can I do?

Just don't play? You're not getting a refund so what is paid is paid but just don't keep your auto-sub on.
I think we are quite a few to have been trough something similar. I barely play the game anymore but I come back whenever there is a decent update on the way.

(And you definitely don't need 9 retainers if you barely play... just sell all that junk and cancel them to save some REAL money)