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  1. #351
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    There’s no way that teenage me would’ve been ok with a story that handled its world and characters the way FFXIV has been doing recently, especially in Endwalker. The ending to ARR and Heavensward’s overall writing was what sold me on this game long term, but that isn’t the sort of thing we’ve been seeing lately.

    They had the opportunity to let us go back to being an adventurer but instead we’re about to go liberate the Void. This is all becoming far too predictable and the need for either the return of the Heavensward/FFXVI writing team or a new team of writers skilled in high fantasy works has never been greater.

    FFXIV needs to decide just what kind of story it wants to tell and tell it well. From the protagonists to the overall state of the world, they should all be handled with more care than it currently are.
    I agree

    They need to decide if FFXIV "as good as a single player FF game" story should rival emotional scenes like Sazh (you know an ADULT man) in games like FFXIII or is it supposed to be just another Avenger's vs Thanos (like WoW) story in the making?

    Now, there's nothing wrong with the Avengers I infact do love watching those movies, but I enjoy them as in; I turn off my brain for 2 hours and ride along the fun.

    There's nothing thought provoking, or deep in the movies. Avenger's doesn't expect you to ask any questions, it's just movies with good-looking-people beating up other good-looking-people in costumes that we remember as children.

    But, I expect more from a Final Fantasy game " that rivals single player" honestly.
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    Last edited by Eldtagg; 08-08-2022 at 02:47 PM.

  2. #352
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    you don't have friends do you xD
    Absolutely I have. I love my friends.

    Not as much as my family but I do love them,

    My friends have children/spouses of their own so we see each other these days when we have the time.

    Do you think that; in a crisis, they would save: option A: Me or option B: Their family?

    There is only one correct answer to that question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldtagg View Post
    Absolutely I have. I love my friends.

    Not as much as my family but I do love them,

    My friends have children/spouses of their own so we see each other these days when we have the time.

    Do you think that; in a crisis, they would save: option A: Me or option B: Their family?

    There is only one correct answer to that question.
    you sound like a teenager trying hard to sound like an adult.
    I'M AN ADULT MAN!
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  4. #354
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldtagg View Post
    It's time that the WoL got something in their life that they love above everything else and they would fight tooth and nail for.
    We have that. We put ourselves directly between the innocent and the bad things. We fight tooth and nail to keep everyone safe. If we hear about a threat, we go to confront it. That's what heroes do and this is a story about a hero.
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  5. #355
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    you sound like a teenager trying hard to sound like an adult.
    I'M AN ADULT MAN!
    Alrighty.
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  6. #356
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    We have that. We put ourselves directly between the innocent and the bad things. We fight tooth and nail to keep everyone safe. If we hear about a threat, we go to confront it. That's what heroes do and this is a story about a hero.

    Sure, but I rather want a hero to have something in their life that they can't control or -put themselves between- because bad things happen to good people sometimes and there is not always a solution.

    Not even Superman can fix everything and he is written power-wise all over the place.
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    Last edited by Eldtagg; 08-08-2022 at 03:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldtagg View Post
    Playing the WoL as it has been up to now is unfortunately what I would call akin to backseat gaming because it feels like if someone else is playing my character for me and choosing the reactions which is out of character for mine.
    I was relatively fine with it up until EW, but between the lack of dialog options this time combined with an actual personality being imposed upon both Azem and the WoL I felt the most disconnected from my character I ever have. My reactions behind the screen were often the polar opposite of my character's, which was incredibly immersion breaking.

    Endwalker's story and the characters that set things in motions felt more like how I saw the world some 20 years ago as a teenager, then I grew up and became and adult...
    I also felt that thematically EW was juvenile. I'm not even sure I would've liked it as a teenager.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldtagg View Post
    Sure, but I rather want a hero to have something in their life that they can't control or -put themselves between- because bad things happen to good people sometimes and there is not always a solution.

    Not even Superman can fix everything and he is written power-wise all over the place.
    Check out the story again because that stuff is in there.
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  9. #359
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Check out the story again because that stuff is in there.
    Yes. During Heavensward. Not during Endwalker.
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    Авейонд-сны


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    Nah. The whole story.
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