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  1. #191
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    Raoabolic's Avatar
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    ah me me me culture
    More like the sink or swim culture.
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  2. #192
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronibosch View Post
    I hate to admit it, but I always dread getting paired up with mentors in duty roulette, since most of the ones I've met have been asocial and/or passive aggressive (not even sparing a "hello" when you greet them). They usually want to get the duty finished asap, not staying behind to answer questions or leave commendations.
    That isn't a mentor thing, it's a veteran player thing. They have seen these duties lots of times and just want to get their roulette or duty done. To them it's easy because they have done it many times and they are just bored. Oh, sprout falling for the usual thing, here's a rescue. Ok duty done, bye.

    The reason it seems like mentors do it is because veteran players are often mentors and the crown tells you that they are veteran players, but you will eventually meet veteran players who hide their crown or never picked it up and behave exactly the same way.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

  3. #193
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    ronibosch's Avatar
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    Tuul Muluk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    That isn't a mentor thing, it's a veteran player thing. They have seen these duties lots of times and just want to get their roulette or duty done. To them it's easy because they have done it many times and they are just bored. Oh, sprout falling for the usual thing, here's a rescue. Ok duty done, bye.

    The reason it seems like mentors do it is because veteran players are often mentors and the crown tells you that they are veteran players, but you will eventually meet veteran players who hide their crown or never picked it up and behave exactly the same way.
    That makes sense. I guess that's what novice network is for, then.
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  4. #194
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    hagare's Avatar
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    Cesan Duff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    More like the sink or swim culture.
    right, if you don't swim like I say, I'm sinking the ship xD

    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    On the worst end maybe, but NA also doesn't have a general culture of 3 wipes and we just silently disband.
    yeah they start pointing fingers and kick people THEN disband instead
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  5. #195
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    Khulan Noir
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronibosch View Post
    I hate to admit it, but I always dread getting paired up with mentors in duty roulette, since most of the ones I've met have been asocial and/or passive aggressive (not even sparing a "hello" when you greet them). They usually want to get the duty finished asap, not staying behind to answer questions or leave commendations.
    Of course, all mentors aren't like this. I'm only speaking from personal experience as a sprout.
    Keep in mind there's likely many mentors that are on console, so not saying hello or being asocial isn't always them being rude. When I used to be on PS4 my bluetooth keyboard would take a moment to turn on when I start typing so I didn't usually have time to say much if anything before the tank sprinted off. Obviously this isn't always the case, but not all console players will have a keyboard/quick access to one in a dungeon.
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  6. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by angienessyo View Post
    Keep in mind there's likely many mentors that are on console, so not saying hello or being asocial isn't always them being rude. When I used to be on PS4 my bluetooth keyboard would take a moment to turn on when I start typing so I didn't usually have time to say much if anything before the tank sprinted off. Obviously this isn't always the case, but not all console players will have a keyboard/quick access to one in a dungeon.
    True, true. I guess I've been spoiled by my computer's keyboard, as a console player myself. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. I guess I put a lot of expectations on mentors because of what the title alludes to.
    Of course, I'm certain many mentors don't like to offer advice unprompted because they get a lot of backlash as well.
    Edit: Sorry if my sentences sound fragmented. I'm typing this out while sleep deprived.
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  7. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronibosch View Post
    I'm certain many mentors don't like to offer advice unprompted because they get a lot of backlash as well.
    Yes, unprompted advice usually comes across rude and, ironically, contributes to the negative perception of mentors. But I've had the same from non-mentors when I was new.

    My mindset is to let new players have their fun. To live. To die. To learn. If they want advice they will ask for it. For all I know, they might want a blind run. They might play to be good, but they might just play to have fun or do the story and not care about being optimal.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

  8. #198
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    ronibosch's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Yes, unprompted advice usually comes across rude and, ironically, contributes to the negative perception of mentors. But I've had the same from non-mentors when I was new.

    My mindset is to let new players have their fun. To live. To die. To learn. If they want advice they will ask for it. For all I know, they might want a blind run. They might play to be good, but they might just play to have fun or do the story and not care about being optimal.
    That's a wise way to go about things.
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  9. #199
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    Chekopacheko's Avatar
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    Pacheko Cheko
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Unfortunately no matter what a mentor do is gonna be perceived as bad most of the times. I have been called rude and/or yelled at for giving "unsolicited advice", even though we had already wipe twice to the same boss mechanic, so now i rather remain silent unless someone actually ask for help/advice, not ideal but unfortunately that's the way it is :/
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  10. #200
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    Mika Zahard
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    In which case Mentor Roulette can be safely removed from the game since Adventurer in Need is already there to fill queues faster. It's pretty rare that I end up with a mentor in one of my parties unless they were queueing with a sprout for the XP bonus.
    Wtf that's NOT how adventurer in need works.

    Stop spreading out misinformation.
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