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    Packetdancer's Avatar
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Leviathan
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    You're missing the point of Deep Dungeon if you think roulette will help in any way.
    It depends on what you want it to help. Let's take PotD as an example, and have a roulette that will let you end up on any sub-100 set of ten floors that you've cleared.

    For folks who only care about getting from 1-50 (to finish the initial story), a roulette would help because if they're doing matched runs -- which is pretty common -- a roulette would make that much faster. I could wander to Quarrymill, hit "Aid a fellow adventurer." and poof, I show up to help whoever is trying to run palace.

    For those who care about getting the second part of the story -- e.g., getting to 100 -- then I think the roulette will also help; you already can do matched groups from 51-100, it's just that no one does for anything except 51-60. Meaning the chances that someone is queued for matched for the same set of ten floors at 61 or higher that you're trying to queue for is vanishingly small; after floor 60, you almost have to have a fixed party, not because the dungeon requires it but because otherwise your queue will never pop.

    A roulette would help immensely with that.

    Now, if you're talking specifically folks with a goal to clear the entire Palace, no, it won't help there; I'm told that past floor 100 you cannot do matched parties, only fixed. (I've never tried this, mind you, but that does sound like a thing they'd do with deep dungeons.) But honestly, I cannot imagine trying to do a serious deep dungeon run with a random matched party even if it did let you, because you would lose all your pomanders every ten floors; only fixed parties get to keep pomanders past a boss floor. And while in a group, pomanders are not really required for any of the sub-100 floors, the idea of facing some of the lowest floors on Palace -- the 181-190 set in particular -- without appropriate pomanders sends a cold chill down my spine.
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    It depends on what you want it to help. Let's take PotD as an example, and have a roulette that will let you end up on any sub-100 set of ten floors that you've cleared.

    For folks who only care about getting from 1-50 (to finish the initial story), a roulette would help because if they're doing matched runs -- which is pretty common -- a roulette would make that much faster. I could wander to Quarrymill, hit "Aid a fellow adventurer." and poof, I show up to help whoever is trying to run palace.

    For those who care about getting the second part of the story -- e.g., getting to 100 -- then I think the roulette will also help; you already can do matched groups from 51-100, it's just that no one does for anything except 51-60. Meaning the chances that someone is queued for matched for the same set of ten floors at 61 or higher that you're trying to queue for is vanishingly small; after floor 60, you almost have to have a fixed party, not because the dungeon requires it but because otherwise your queue will never pop.

    A roulette would help immensely with that.

    Now, if you're talking specifically folks with a goal to clear the entire Palace, no, it won't help there; I'm told that past floor 100 you cannot do matched parties, only fixed. (I've never tried this, mind you, but that does sound like a thing they'd do with deep dungeons.) But honestly, I cannot imagine trying to do a serious deep dungeon run with a random matched party even if it did let you, because you would lose all your pomanders every ten floors; only fixed parties get to keep pomanders past a boss floor. And while in a group, pomanders are not really required for any of the sub-100 floors, the idea of facing some of the lowest floors on Palace -- the 181-190 set in particular -- without appropriate pomanders sends a cold chill down my spine.
    Yeah 101+ is fixed party only. A roulette would be 1 to 100 and like you said, would drop you into a random set of floors just like any other roulette drops you where you're needed.
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