RIP SAM - no reverts planned for 6.2

[Vencio]

Correction,

I’ve never claimed as such except your channeled anger that just can’t shake it off,

Besides, what do you have against my own kin anyways?

-Sips Ishgardian wine-

[CelestiCer]

Let's never forget this part... Admitting to it all.

" Click this Post incase anyone has doubts "

Priding to gloat with deceit and admitting to not wanting to improve on the Gameplay Designs SE set as the bar? Sums up a plethora of poor virtues, and that's fine... Until it's about spreading miss-information. No amount of wine-sipping fixes a crooked mouth of an Adult acting like a minor.

Disrespectful posts and Wine snobbing aside, we're beyond having respectful exchanges but out of amusement I'll go over what you said for the sake of a fruitless discussion.

-sighs- (snips).

You're Lv90 Samurai, and there's no hiding as you admit that you do not delve into high-end content nor have interest in it. You state you enjoy the current Crit-bonuses which buffed the Job and that's not exactly true. We're performing less, specially in the casual Dungeon/Fate/Normal content you would partake in more then high-end content, so that's the " First Lie ".

You advocate for button bloat solving that are not detailed just that you want less buttons for the sake of less buttons without any aforementioned examples most of us have presented. A personal opinion of wanting simplicity over anything else as your previous posts stated before, " Admitting to wanting to dumb down a Job ", not for your " immersion " which I'll take as a " Second Lie "

Then you speak of " META " that you wouldn't know anything about since you do not delve into high-end content, which are your words as a defense to you knowing the job. But, because all you do is casual content? you do not need to master anything about Samurai, nor its rotation nor even read the tooltips on each skill that you probably won't know the names off the top of your head or what they do. " Third Lie "

Lastly you state combining AoE skills and removing Third Eye, showcasing how little you know about balancing or gameplay in general. It's wise to balance PvE gameplay based off of the highest difficult content/mechanics/damage checks, which by default makes it acceptable by any difficulty below it. You're doing the opposite I assume in an attempt to spread informed Feedback with a " Malice intent " packaged in sentences that's " Politically Correct ".


TLDR: You're knowingly miss-informed, with the attempt to spread miss-information and false feedback with the malice intent to rile up Samurai players on the forum, repeatedly.

A wine drinking Jester, remains a Jester. I don't judge professions or hobbies or kinks, but for many of us? it's not our cup of tea, and it does look borderline (and I will use this word carefully)... stupid.

[Vencio]

Why further cut my nails? They’ll grow back.

I’ve given numerous accounts regarding my stance, only to receive a barrage of ill responses all the same. I cannot provide anything further past that.

Where in the world did “political correct” came about? You’re straying way off the venue here. Anything but troll & political correct sorts really, and you wonder who’s stirring up the flames ongoing : /

Once more I’ve never claimed any information to be in absolute besides stating my own thoughts as much as anyone has by right as such is the nature of the forums; express, conversate, debate, or otherwise.

PS: Ever occurred to you that creativity & bit of role playing are moments that I can freely express as much? Even Jesters has relative understanding of comedy interpretation & subject to display wonders.

Sadly I am not one.

PSS: -Shares Ishgardian wine- there

[Ruminous]

Coming back to the forums for a bit since the 6.2 patch is soon, and I was surprised to read this, like, isn't this is a really mean-spirited post? I checked my post history and apparently I responded to a topic you made months ago regarding stuff like this cause the name was familiar, and the subject matter mirrored my experiences with the Dark Knight pushback over the last few years. Was my answer back then not sufficient?

Is this what you've been doing the entire time in the DPS forums since the patch? Railing on SAM players? As someone who spent, jeez, 3 years on trying to get Blood Weapon fixed, and even longer for Living Dead fixed on DRK, it's not like I don't sympathize with the DPS players pushing back on this, but I don't know the role enough to really support their endeavors beyond hoping the best for them. But do you gotta grind it in their face that the game they loved will never exist again, when you yourself have limited investment or stake in the actual topic and just enjoy seeing them miserable?

I don't know man, even if they're just randoms on the internet...is that really alright? Or am I just more empathetic than I should be in standard XIV forum trash talking?

It's never offered a good, rational opinion and thought on samurais. And yeah, I combed the post history to look and it's literally just trolling. Sure likes to pretend it's not, even though I've said it's either too stupid to know or it's willfully ignorant, in which case, troll. Best to just ignore it and move on, since it can offer absolutely nothing of value.

He is indeed trying really hard to be as despicable as humanly possible.

It's not like he has to try that hard, but the show is getting old. Still, one trick ponies are just that. I've since moved on from it, I don't even see it anymore. It's just not that entertaining now.

[Ransu]

Let's never forget this part... Admitting to it all.


Priding to gloat with deceit and admitting to not wanting to improve on the Gameplay Designs SE set as the bar? Sums up a plethora of poor virtues, and that's fine... Until it's about spreading miss-information. No amount of wine-sipping fixes a crooked mouth of an Adult acting like a minor.

Disrespectful posts and Wine snobbing aside, we're beyond having respectful exchanges but out of amusement I'll go over what you said for the sake of a fruitless discussion.


You're Lv90 Samurai, and there's no hiding as you admit that you do not delve into high-end content nor have interest in it. You state you enjoy the current Crit-bonuses which buffed the Job and that's not exactly true. We're performing less, specially in the casual Dungeon/Fate/Normal content you would partake in more then high-end content, so that's the " First Lie ".

You advocate for button bloat solving that are not detailed just that you want less buttons for the sake of less buttons without any aforementioned examples most of us have presented. A personal opinion of wanting simplicity over anything else as your previous posts stated before, " Admitting to wanting to dumb down a Job ", not for your " immersion " which I'll take as a " Second Lie "

Then you speak of " META " that you wouldn't know anything about since you do not delve into high-end content, which are your words as a defense to you knowing the job. But, because all you do is casual content? you do not need to master anything about Samurai, nor its rotation nor even read the tooltips on each skill that you probably won't know the names off the top of your head or what they do. " Third Lie "

Lastly you state combining AoE skills and removing Third Eye, showcasing how little you know about balancing or gameplay in general. It's wise to balance PvE gameplay based off of the highest difficult content/mechanics/damage checks, which by default makes it acceptable by any difficulty below it. You're doing the opposite I assume in an attempt to spread informed Feedback with a " Malice intent " packaged in sentences that's " Politically Correct ".


TLDR: You're knowingly miss-informed, with the attempt to spread miss-information and false feedback with the malice intent to rile up Samurai players on the forum, repeatedly.

A wine drinking Jester, remains a Jester. I don't judge professions or hobbies or kinks, but for many of us? it's not our cup of tea, and it does look borderline (and I will use this word carefully)... stupid.

He's openly admitted to wanting pve skills to be like pvp. The limited pvp skills work in pvp because its fast paced....It would be horrible in pve and I would outright quit the game if he ever got what he wanted. I feel for controller players, but thats a limitation they choose to play with. Everyone else shouldn't have to suffer because a bad player can't figure out how to use all the shortcuts for the controllers crossbar UI.

Dudes obviously a troll, but even if he was half serious, everyone here should just actively ignore him. Especially when he mains a PLD.

Why further cut my nails? They’ll grow back.

I’ve given numerous accounts regarding my stance, only to receive a barrage of ill responses all the same. I cannot provide anything further past that.

Where in the world did “political correct” came about? You’re straying way off the venue here. Anything but troll & political correct sorts really, and you wonder who’s stirring up the flames ongoing : /

Once more I’ve never claimed any information to be in absolute besides stating my own thoughts as much as anyone has by right as such is the nature of the forums; express, conversate, debate, or otherwise.

PS: Ever occurred to you that creativity & bit of role playing are moments that I can freely express as much? Even Jesters has relative understanding of comedy interpretation & subject to display wonders.

Sadly I am not one.

PSS: -Shares Ishgardian wine- there

You have not once made a legitimate post. Every single post you make is passive aggressive in nature and its why everyone labels you a troll.

[Vencio]

How exactly does a legitimate post looks to you?

I’ve kept reinstating my stance various time haha! If my points weren’t sufficient then I don’t know what does.

You’re no stranger to impulsive behaviour & attempts to rail me off the side in the past : / if anything reflect on yourself

[Ceridwen]

He's openly admitted to wanting pve skills to be like pvp.

Oh, dear god, what a horrible idea!!!! I'm glad I blocked that guy - it's bad enough to see his horrid thoughts quoted! I'm not even sure I like the baby-small buttons in pvp. (PVP is not this game's strong point, I'd say) I mean, maybe just one button would suit such a person better?

I could deal with an ability sharing a button, like the Gunbreaker's. I'd like that, probably. But - what continues to confound me is that anyone thought the Samurai was too complicated in the first place. It's duller than the machinist now (which I want to have gadgets & mech things, somehow, incidentally) It's a job without its soulstone.

[Flashy]

One day people will stop entertaining Vencio lol, I have him blocked but everybody keeps quoting him in their posts

[Ruminous]

pvp in this game, even with the reworks and such, should not ever, ever creep into pve content.

[Hezhi]

Some elements of PvP should definitely creep back into PvE content. No, not 1 button combos, but things such as jobs actually feeling distinct and having slight niches they can fill over others. Healers having more than 1 damage ability. Kaiten existing at all.
The alternative direction is the boring, sanitized role-based ideal they're currently entertaining that results in things such as entire roles getting destroyed or SAM randomly having its identity ironed out, with players now dreading each upcoming "rework".