Mods and cheat engine

[ForteNightshade]

The tools aren't evil in and of themselves, its completely dependent on the personal conduct of the user. Not to mention some of these "tools" are "free" - you have to ask yourself what information you're giving to some third party to run them. I'd say Square Enix has your best interest in mind in regards to that. Also - its not a grey area - its a full blown TOS violation regardless of platform, and yes it does make it unfair for those who play by the rules.

Yoshida has literally said parsers are a grey area because he knows how much the high-end raid community values them. He may not like them but in a game entirely centered around DPS, they're not going anywhere. The raid scene as a whole would die overnight if all these third party programs were banned and the dev team is well aware of that. Hence why they do nothing about them unless it's made blatantly obvious.

[Saranade]

Yoshida has literally said parsers are a grey area because he knows how much the high-end raid community values them. He may not like them but in a game entirely centered around DPS, they're not going anywhere. The raid scene as a whole would die overnight if all these third party programs were banned and the dev team is well aware of that. Hence why they do nothing about them unless it's made blatantly obvious.

"Indeed, we’ve only released duties that we have proven can be beaten with the game’s standard features." - Yoshi P." - do you need any other clarification?

[IkaraGreydancer]

The tools aren't evil in and of themselves, its completely dependent on the personal conduct of the user. Not to mention some of these "tools" are "free" - you have to ask yourself what information you're giving to some third party to run them. I'd say Square Enix has your best interest in mind in regards to that. Also - its not a grey area - its a full blown TOS violation regardless of platform, and yes it does make it unfair for those who play by the rules.

If it's not a grey area...then Yoshi is lying. Because he himself has claimed as such. Think he knows a bit more than you do about his game respectfully

[NekoMataMata]

People are talking about the poses being harmless but the reason some of those poses are limited to certain circumstances is to prevent people from being degenerates out in public.

[Saraide]

People are talking about the poses being harmless but the reason some of those poses are limited to certain circumstances is to prevent people from being degenerates out in public.

And then that gets thrown out the window with the play dead emote.

[Bukachu]

you type /groundsit to sit anywhere LOL

its not a cheat

[KageTokage]

you type /groundsit to sit anywhere LOL

its not a cheat

By "sit anywhere" they mean using the animation for sitting on something anywhere, not /groundsit.

[Saranade]

If it's not a grey area...then Yoshi is lying. Because he himself has claimed as such. Think he knows a bit more than you do about his game respectfully

You're right - he does - and he makes it publicly available here to contradict your very statement: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...0c5d56cb2e4547

"As stated in the terms of service for FINAL FANTASY XIV: the use of third-party tools is strictly prohibited. Players who are determined to be using third-party tools will have their accounts suspended, or permanently banned for repeat offenses."

In the same article: "Indeed, we've only released duties that we have proven can be beaten with the game's standard features."

I hope this clears up things for you, and your perception that this is somehow a "grey area".

[Saranade]

If it's not a grey area...then Yoshi is lying. Because he himself has claimed as such. Think he knows a bit more than you do about his game respectfully

Here are some more easy pills to swallow from the same article I linked earlier (per Yoshi)

Use of tools that allow players to more easily complete content.
Modification of the UI to display additional information.*
Use of packet spoofing tools.
Any actions or public statements that promote use of third-party tools.

Do you have any further input about the grey area? When i read it, its pretty black and white.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Here are some more easy pills to swallow from the same article I linked earlier (per Yoshi)

Use of tools that allow players to more easily complete content.
Modification of the UI to display additional information.*
Use of packet spoofing tools.
Any actions or public statements that promote use of third-party tools.

Do you have any further input about the grey area? When i read it, its pretty black and white.

Yeah it's so black n white that folks aren't even being mass banned for using these things. So maybe, JUST MAYBE...it IS a grey area. You can believe what you will as is your right. But your crusade doesn't have many legs