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  1. #441
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apeachs View Post
    Yea it might look harmless but it's injecting code and manipulating game code as shown on the YouTube videos earlier.
    Zepla's video
    Xenosyz video

    User Agreement if someone did forget about it
    Buts its not effecting the whole game. Its only on the client side. If it was like you know wall hacks, speed hacks, vacuum hacks, etc then yes
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

  2. #442
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxion View Post
    Buts its not effecting the whole game. Its only on the client side. If it was like you know wall hacks, speed hacks, vacuum hacks, etc then yes
    But thats the thing, in there eyes all mods and plugins are exactly the same. To totally root out the really bad one like the one shown, the pvp ones, and some of the worse 18+ ones is to go scorched earth since there current policy with mods and plugins is what it is. And the worst part is that these mod(bot) makers know this. As much as people want to stand on that hill that QoL mods don't hurt anything, they are still sadly illegal and if someone with bad intentions have the stuff to prove that you are using these they can report you and get you taken down.

    We already have the perfect example with the 4 & 5 chan DSR salt fueled crusade against mods that had streamers shook and scared. They were successfully getting people taken down for any type of mod and after Yoshi-P's response that supported that sentiment just made it worse. It wasn't just ACT or Cactbot but any and every mod that any streamer had.
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    "i see people having fun" Jesus Christ
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  4. #444
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syln View Post
    "i see people having fun" Jesus Christ
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

  5. #445
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaciscokidd View Post
    But thats the thing, in there eyes all mods and plugins are exactly the same. To totally root out the really bad one like the one shown, the pvp ones, and some of the worse 18+ ones is to go scorched earth since there current policy with mods and plugins is what it is. And the worst part is that these mod(bot) makers know this. As much as people want to stand on that hill that QoL mods don't hurt anything, they are still sadly illegal and if someone with bad intentions have the stuff to prove that you are using these they can report you and get you taken down.

    We already have the perfect example with the 4 & 5 chan DSR salt fueled crusade against mods that had streamers shook and scared. They were successfully getting people taken down for any type of mod and after Yoshi-P's response that supported that sentiment just made it worse. It wasn't just ACT or Cactbot but any and every mod that any streamer had.
    I keep forget the type of community this. People minding there business doing what they want and people just come out of the underground just to do some crazy stuff like that
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

  6. #446
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    Sell your console and buy a PC, problem solved

    "oh no people are having fun, the drama !!!"
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    Just gonna state the obvious for people who think Square is just not allowing mods on PS4/5 (since I saw this get brought up).

    Sony is notorious for not wanting their system modded, I believe only Farming Sim, Fallout 4 & maybe Skyrim are actually cleared for it. I would point the finger in their direction more than Square here in terms of that.
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  8. #448
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    Square should just return the ability to sleep anywhere (they removed it, allegedly to combat ERPers. LOL) and give us a /chairsit emote similar to /groundsit that lets us sit in a chair-sitting pose. Then nobody would feel compelled to use bad methods to just sit on a ledge or sleep on the ground or whatever.
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  9. #449
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    Square should just return the ability to sleep anywhere (they removed it, allegedly to combat ERPers. LOL) and give us a /chairsit emote similar to /groundsit that lets us sit in a chair-sitting pose. Then nobody would feel compelled to use bad methods to just sit on a ledge or sleep on the ground or whatever.
    when was this a thing? i’ve been playing since ARR closed beta and do not remember being able to sleep anywhere let alone having it removed to “combat ERPers” (despite /play dead existing)
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    Yoshi P said at any point without warning or anything SE may ban you for using any form of mods. They don't want to go on witch hunt for now, but they may go for it. There are many ways to find you without spyware (devs do that from Lineage 1).
    - To not see other players debuff timers is game design and even have mechanics related with it. Yes, you can see them when you target them, but this is not how you figure out mechanics related with it, right?
    - I play the game from ARR and I had not a single run registered on savages/extreme in ARR, HS, SB and even in ShB. In last week I was shown by a friend I have around 20 registered clears this expansion. All the years I played FF there was raiding community. If they ban DPS meters, don't be surprised to see you may be vocal minority.
    - Toxisity coming from "quality of life" users are super vocal in every discord or FF community. People even this forum opened topic "PS5 users and PC should have separated servers". If not seperating the community means to remove 300 000 users, I don't mind it at all.
    - Gposing, I agree with the modding community on this one. Most of the features in Gposing mod should be in the game. More open for edit and poses photo mode would be absolutely great for everyone. But I don't know a single person that would literally not live without it.
    - The big deal, NSFW modding. There are games specifically made for NSFW, grow up and go there. FF 14 have no age verification, it is not planned to be 18+ game and nobody should force it to be. You would probably say if people use it with concensus and in private, there is no trouble. Are you really that naive? I have a friend that plays FF 14 from back in the days when she was underaged and she was sent not once, but 4 times NSFW photos of her character without her permission to even be photographed.
    - Bard player is ruining the expirience for players that actually can play and I know this will take a lot of hate. Once I met a guy that actually can play for real, he played few songs super cool thing. But after him a "band' jumped on the stage with their trio midi and took the entire attention. This expirience for me was an eye opener. The only reason music exists is to be enjoyed by other people and the reward of playing music is taken away at this point.
    - Even partially using mods as Xeno and other world popular streamers are getting affected by it beause their popularity stands on them being good at the game, but when half Limsa have Ultimates cleared (no matter if they used mods or not, because you can't proof they did used or did not used) they become nothing, everyone can do what they do. So they kind of shooting themselves in the knee, you can't be the noticeably good player when everyone have no troubles to "play" at your level.

    And why world first use mods "Cheating in video games is having advantage over normal gameplay". All world first are just cheating their way to the top.
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