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    The 6.0 MSQ was entertaining and I enjoyed it overall, but I haven't even finished all the 6.1 MSQ. It's just a chore on my list to get done before the patch.

    I feel like this whole "New Adventure" thing is what Yoshida wanted, not me. The Ascian/Garlean plot was finally going somewhere interesting and I wanted a satisfying conclusion, not a rushed one to get it out of the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    The 6.0 MSQ was entertaining and I enjoyed it overall, but I haven't even finished all the 6.1 MSQ. It's just a chore on my list to get done before the patch.

    I feel like this whole "New Adventure" thing is what Yoshida wanted, not me. The Ascian/Garlean plot was finally going somewhere interesting and I wanted a satisfying conclusion, not a rushed one to get it out of the way.
    We're still getting Ascian/Ancient stuff though. Course it's coming in the form of the 8 man raid. We also will be getting more Garlemald since we haven't gone back to Julius and the twins yet. Don't even have a hint that we will get them in 6.2 so unless they do a four lords type of thing where we finish what many believe to be the trial storyline with the void stuff and then circle back to other things we could be getting more Garlean stuff this patch. It would be surprising to ignore it til 6.3 or later. Unless it's meant to be part of the real build up for 7.0 then I'll gladly wait for the small shake up in the predictability of the schedule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    too bad she doesn't like or care about any of those anymore.
    Don't enjoy the story of the themepark MMO? Just quit! I thought this was an interactive game, not a TV show. You can like the gameplay and hate (parts) of the story.

    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    It's just a chore on my list to get done before the patch.
    It's like 10 quests. Sadly i felt that the 6.0 was (mostly) a chore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    I feel like this whole "New Adventure" thing is what Yoshida wanted, not me.
    It's funny because i think about Shadowbringers and Endwalker that way. Shadowbringers mostly took place in another realm, almost like it's filler, ignoring a lot of established stuff. Then Endwalker dumped the war against Garlemald storyline. How much does Yoshida hate Stormblood? Or they just didn't want to continue with it. Shows you how important plot threats can become. Not to mention all of the bad storytelling. There is a reason we have a huge thread about those.

    For me the worst it did is it killed all momentum and stakes. I don't know, but i might become a cutscene & dialouge skipper next exp if it's this bad. "Why not quit?" Because i love the gameplay and playing with my friends.
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

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    Personally speaking I loved Endwalker. Sure there could have been parts where I feel it could have been better (Nothing is perfect) but its my second favorite expansion and I like what it did with many of the characters. Its funny, the Scions where always 'OK' characters to me during ARR+ but it was Shadowbringers that made me really care for them. I apprecated how many they grew over that expansion, and despite what others say I though Endwalker did them OK too.

    All that said, I kinda hope we do move on now, take a break from these characters and meet a new cast of folk to befriend and go on adventures with. My biggest dissapointment of the expansion would be just how involved they where in 6.1. For what is meant to be the start of our grand new adventure, we really ended up getting almost eveyone involved again... kinda felt a bit off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Don't enjoy the story of the themepark MMO? Just quit! I thought this was an interactive game, not a TV show. You can like the gameplay and hate (parts) of the story.
    I fail to see the part where see posted the stuff she likes.
    BUt hey, maybe you're seeing things I'm not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    I feel like this whole "New Adventure" thing is what Yoshida wanted, not me. The Ascian/Garlean plot was finally going somewhere interesting and I wanted a satisfying conclusion, not a rushed one to get it out of the way.
    Yoshi-P's concern was that if he dragged out the Ascian/Garlean plot for too long it would become stale and people would believe it's never going to be resolved.

    It did feel that way for a long time but we were still excited for a Garlean expansion in Stormblood. Shadowbringers put a big dent in that by distracting us from the Garleans and then making them irrelevant by saying "they were just an Ascian creation". Rebuilding the excitement for a Garlean expansion was rough but Bozja and the weapon trial series did a good job of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lelila38 View Post
    They rushed the ending and ruined a lot of great setups by previous expansions they might have explored. At this point, I'm feeling mostly disappointment about what could have been and hopelessness about what might come.
    Obviously, they ruined the possibility of a Garlean expansion but I saw it as an interesting subverting of expectations. Given the amount of people that express this sentiment, they were successful at that.

    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    We also will be getting more Garlemald since we haven't gone back to Julius and the twins yet.
    If you haven't done all of the role quests, then I suggest doing that because Garlemald is involved and it's possible it was involved enough that they won't return to it in the MSQ.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    If you haven't done all of the role quests, then I suggest doing that because Garlemald is involved and it's possible it was involved enough that they won't return to it in the MSQ.
    I have done the capstone quest. Not everyone chose to go to the moon or even leave Garlemald. If not the MSQ then what would you use to tie in going back to check in on the twins and thus what is going on in Garlemald? I highly doubt they'd just leave the twins and Julius at the train station in a holding pattern of doing what they can to help those who stayed or had been too scattered to send people out to search for until now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    If not the MSQ then what would you use to tie in going back to check in on the twins and thus what is going on in Garlemald?
    Maybe the last beast tribe.

    I highly doubt they'd just leave the twins and Julius at the train station in a holding pattern of doing what they can to help those who stayed
    They could just return in the MSQ and say they are done helping them and were successful.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Maybe the last beast tribe.

    They could just return in the MSQ and say they are done helping them and were successful.
    The Akasadora? Or are you talking about the third tribe assuming we not averting from the formula and still get three that would be crafting if we were to follow how ShB did it? And are you ot are you not wanting more Garlemald? Cause just dropping by and getting an "Oh yeah everything is good here sorry for not getting on the linkshell or sending moogle mail to Tataru or whatever to say everything is good and Julius is now mayor. We'll be returning to Sharlyean..." feels like a bit of a wasted trip.
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