We Need to Start Expecting Mid-Level Sprouts to Play Better

[Ilisidi]

Would you run those high-skill matched dungeons and trials if they have no rewards? The low level, clueless and ignorant players are the price for the rewards. The whole reason duty finder and roulette exists is to give people doing the content someone to play with, regardless of what those players would parse at.

If you only want to do dungeons with players of sufficiently high skill, use party finder and set your own rules.

[VelKallor]

regardless of what those players would parse at.

Thank you for confirming that dps meters are abused and used to discriminate.

[Iustitia-sama]

Would you run those high-skill matched dungeons and trials if they have no rewards? The low level, clueless and ignorant players are the price for the rewards. The whole reason duty finder and roulette exists is to give people doing the content someone to play with, regardless of what those players would parse at.

If you only want to do dungeons with players of sufficiently high skill, use party finder and set your own rules.

Sorry but I run roulettes for the tangible rewards, not for the "reward" of playing with others especially if they have no clue in how to play. Sorry but I don't play to carry people, plus there's plenty of casuals that can fill those spots.
To answer your first question, no I wouldn't, I already have to put up with casual, YPYT, cure only healers an the myriad other types of bad players for a small reward, why would I put myself through that for nothing?.
Talking as if skill based matchmaking would stop new and bad players from getting quick queues lmao, most skilled players don't even run roulettes often, I only do 3 of them myself and usually I go with other people so your whole "The low level, clueless and ignorant players are the price for the rewards." point is moot anyway.

[Ilisidi]

Sorry but I run roulettes for the tangible rewards, not for the "reward" of playing with others especially if they have no clue in how to play. Sorry but I don't play to carry people, plus there's plenty of casuals that can fill those spots.
To answer your first question, no I wouldn't, I already have to put up with casual, YPYT, cure only healers an the myriad other types of bad players for a small reward, why would I put myself through that for nothing?.

Exactly, you run the roulette for the rewards. The price for getting those rewards are random players.

[Iustitia-sama]

And? how does that invalidate skill based matchmaking? I would still be matched with random players, just the random players would be around my skill level, so what is your actual point?

[Supersnow845]

Would you run those high-skill matched dungeons and trials if they have no rewards? The low level, clueless and ignorant players are the price for the rewards. The whole reason duty finder and roulette exists is to give people doing the content someone to play with, regardless of what those players would parse at.

If you only want to do dungeons with players of sufficiently high skill, use party finder and set your own rules.

Or how about and let’s circle round to the original point, players who are so bad they make other players experience worse either learn how to play at a basic level or do it with trusts

I shouldn’t have to party finder dead ends so I get people who know how to play the game at a level that has been taught to you for 90 levels at that point