Reduce people's ownership who has more than 10+ plots

[Themarvin]

It will never happen. It is NOT the players fault that it was allowed, blame SE who let this happen for years. It's not a new thing, trust me. I got this game in 2016, a few months later I had enough to buy a small house so I went looking in different areas. I like the Mist and the Lava Beds and I happened upon 4x small houses in a cluster in the LB and grabbed the plot I liked best. About 2 weeks later, my neighbor across the street had bought the remaining 3 plots for himself. I chatted with them about it and he said he does that in all the wards. I didn't think much of it back then, I figuered it was allowed, and IT WAS. In 2018 I happened upon a medium that has been put up empty, nabbed it and still live there as my only house. Players figured it was ok and were allowed to buy and horde for whatever reasons. SE continued to be silent and here we are today. BLAME SE and I can tell you that they will not force horders to relinquish their properties. They would have to give a pretty huge carrot if they ever make major changes in the housing system for them and I'll wager, it will be a choice or free property/gil elsewhere. If you think SE will take from them, you are just wasting your text here.

Thing is, it CAN happen, it alone say in the ToS they can do such... something down the lines of: "System requirement and gameplay experience may/can change over time" so don't be to safe or think it is safe, because they may need to enforce these rules sooner or later.

[Themarvin]

I am one of those people who were grandfathered in for plots. Initially plots were for fc only until they initated personal later on down the line and plots were in abundance heck you had larges in the wild in the early days of FF. Moral or not which is up for debate; during the time when things were different people should not be punished because of something that was perfectly fine in the past only to change much later in the future. Even the devs have taken the stance of the players "followed the laws of the land" in the past and as such will not punish people because of something they allowed. Even if in theory the devs took away all excess plots from people you would still have a massive shortage and people would still bitch and complain. Only way it can be fixed is to have so many wards that their is an abundance of plots for people to get. And even then people would not be happy because they would complain about "we need more larges! we need more mediums!" people will still find a way to complain about something we both know this to be true.

It would be same with the Ultimate Scandal where people exploited Ultimates using a certain Squadron LB if they get to keep their titles and items after having exploited the system, they did not get to... those who openly did it got banned or suspended for a period of time and others just got stripped of items/titles and the likes, it is not fair and SE need to take a stand on it AGAIN, because allowing people to keep all stuff and then saying everyone else can not have the same advantage = bad or worse.

SE should just take the hit and get over with it, in of course fair ways of compensation and the likes, we do not deal with this way: " All Animals are equal.... But some are more equal than others " ways.

[Drakengarde]

It would be same with the Ultimate Scandal where people exploited Ultimates using a certain Squadron LB if they get to keep their titles and items after having exploited the system, they did not get to... those who openly did it got banned or suspended for a period of time and others just got stripped of items/titles and the likes, it is not fair and SE need to take a stand on it AGAIN, because allowing people to keep all stuff and then saying everyone else can not have the same advantage = bad or worse.

SE should just take the hit and get over with it, in of course fair ways of compensation and the likes, we do not deal with this way: " All Animals are equal.... But some are more equal than others " ways.

The only way I can see "compensation" even being on the table is they would have to not only compensate with an ungodly amount of gil per house but even real money. Time and effort goes into people houses for the most part. Air ships, submarines, gardening, decorating that is a great amount of time investment. And is why they would face such a huge backlash from the community.

[Siniztor]

It would be same with the Ultimate Scandal where people exploited Ultimates using a certain Squadron LB if they get to keep their titles and items after having exploited the system, they did not get to... those who openly did it got banned or suspended for a period of time and others just got stripped of items/titles and the likes, it is not fair and SE need to take a stand on it AGAIN, because allowing people to keep all stuff and then saying everyone else can not have the same advantage = bad or worse.

SE should just take the hit and get over with it, in of course fair ways of compensation and the likes, we do not deal with this way: " All Animals are equal.... But some are more equal than others " ways.

No where near the same.. You are aold enough account to remember it was written in the Housing rules.. any of your Characters you got to 50 and a certain rank they could buy a house...

And just FYI Not all servers even had housing issues when they added the one house per server.. People just didn't wanna move..you can go back to my post on the date they added that rule...(day of or moring after)

I Posted how Coeurl was on Aether at the time and right before it went down for this RULE change all 3 wards (Shiro wasnt in yet) on Coeurl that night had 100+empty houses..Mist /Ulda/Shroud at rock bottom even mediums for 8.5 mil smalls at 1.5 dropped as low as they could...I owned 7 houses and a large fc at the time(released them and gave my gil away when I quit for awile).. I was not taken from anyone like i said 300+ empty houses on that server..

I followed SE rules at the time i grinded each of my alts no jump potions.. I grinded each grand company rank no cheating with crafting green items like now

[LaylaTsarra]

SE should just take the hit and get over with it, in of course fair ways of compensation and the likes, we do not deal with this way: " All Animals are equal.... But some are more equal than others " ways.

SE doesn't need to take a hint but you certainly do. They are not going to remove grandfathering or retroactively enforce new rules no matter how many times you post that on this board.

[Silverbane]

I think a voluntary program that rewarded people with something other than gil for giving up one or more of their multiple plots might free up a few plots. A gil reward won't be enough, you see, since gil is easy to get and if you own multiple plots you almost certainly have more than enough of it.

I think the most enticing reward for this might be land itself. SE could open up a few more wards and then offer a pre-release trade-up deal: allow people to trade up some number of plots for a single better plot in the new ward. Three mediums for a large, for example. Or two mediums and 5 smalls for a large. Or whatever numbers seem to make sense.

And there are other rewards SE could offer: free subscription extensions, for example, or just Crysta, the captive "currency" at Mog Station. Or maybe an exclusive Ex-Slumlord glamour.

[Siniztor]

I think a voluntary program that rewarded people with something other than gil for giving up one or more of their multiple plots might free up a few plots. A gil reward won't be enough, you see, since gil is easy to get and if you own multiple plots you almost certainly have more than enough of it.

I think the most enticing reward for this might be land itself. SE could open up a few more wards and then offer a pre-release trade-up deal: allow people to trade up some number of plots for a single better plot in the new ward. Three mediums for a large, for example. Or two mediums and 5 smalls for a large. Or whatever numbers seem to make sense.

And there are other rewards SE could offer: free subscription extensions, for example, or just Crysta, the captive "currency" at Mog Station. Or maybe an exclusive Ex-Slumlord glamour.

Now see a valid idea for those who are sooo bent on getting them houses from people..

Your gonna need more post like this and less post about people hoarding and breaking rules..when in fact they followed them and way for SE to not go back on there word.. Yoshi straight up said they would not take away houses from people who followed rules.

The biggest thing your fighting is Yoshis word...

I'd say a black work house back tattoo lol Kind a like 1.0 players got there tattoo make a new one

[LaylaTsarra]

I think a voluntary program that rewarded people with something other than gil for giving up one or more of their multiple plots might free up a few plots. A gil reward won't be enough, you see, since gil is easy to get and if you own multiple plots you almost certainly have more than enough of it.

I think the most enticing reward for this might be land itself. SE could open up a few more wards and then offer a pre-release trade-up deal: allow people to trade up some number of plots for a single better plot in the new ward. Three mediums for a large, for example. Or two mediums and 5 smalls for a large. Or whatever numbers seem to make sense.

And there are other rewards SE could offer: free subscription extensions, for example, or just Crysta, the captive "currency" at Mog Station. Or maybe an exclusive Ex-Slumlord glamour.

Interesting concept. One thing they could do as a start would be to allow alts to share a house with their main in addition to perhaps coming up with something like this. Elective demolition should at least carry the same benefits as auto demolition when it comes to recovering gil for the house itself.

Those of us who own multiple homes bought them because our alts can't even teleport directly to our own house let alone use it when they get there. This obviously was before 4.2 given buying multiple privates is not an option anymore. I have an alt on Mateus who bought an apartment in the same ward as another alt so she could at least avoid having to tele to the main city aether and so on. The apartment at least offers direct teleport to the ward and the apartment aether quick access to the house location. The frustrating thing though is once you get there the house is essentially useless can't do a thing with it. Even more frustrating is I can share that house with friends who have full access whereas my alt can't even use the mender.

It's why some of us will create a FC so that they can in fact share a house. I have 4 level 90 alts on Balmung who share a FC in Brimming Heart along with a few select friends. I have no interest in a personal there given that FC serves my needs.

Personally given the increase in the player populations I was surprised not to see housing restricted to one per account or even perhaps one per DC now that we can DC travel. On the other hand if that were to be a thing the ability to share even on other servers and DC's should be part of what someone should be able to do with any alt regardless of server given after all the house does belong to the account just like the alts belong to the account.

[Siniztor]

One thing they could do as a start would be to allow alts to share a house with their main

This defiantly needs to be added and also some type of shared bank would be nice example a small type of fc chest but only for your alts..Theydont have to make it that many spots even 10 or so.. tonight i had to get a fc mate to transfer some of my gil to my alts (I just moved back to NA)..I know some peopel who have alts on there friends list due to a old glitch must say im kinda jelly they can mail to there alts and add them to there houses

[LaylaTsarra]

This defiantly needs to be added and also some type of shared bank would be nice example a small type of fc chest but only for your alts..Theydont have to make it that many spots even 10 or so.. tonight i had to get a fc mate to transfer some of my gil to my alts (I just moved back to NA)..I know some peopel who have alts on there friends list due to a old glitch must say im kinda jelly they can mail to there alts and add them to there houses

Yes that glitch at least offers alts the same rights as friends and they can in fact share a private house. It would be nice if we could in fact share a house with more than 3 people. Personally share should be for friends only with share rights automatic with any alt on your account. Being able to use a small chest to share between alts and even use Moogle mail should be a thing as well.

Sadly alts are treated as separate people and have little rights when it comes to anything including a house, mounts, glamour, minions and more. I personally do not seriously collect stuff even on my main given it's not worth my time given I can't really share any of that with my alts. It's kind of funny cause i have a friend who tell friends I don't have a main that all my alts are my main and this is so true when it comes to me.