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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    Sole Survivor fell into the same niche as Mercy Stroke for WAR. Technically useful but only under extreme conditions. It was even harder for WAR when you consider how dmg order is calculated but to those that mastered it, it was a free cure 2. Ironic how these extremely niche skills got removed but scathe on BLM is still there. Really makes you think...
    Tbf, Scathe is the only mobility option BLM has that requires neither a proc nor a 60s CD or 30+ seconds' worth of resource (the latter also requiring level 80+).

    This would be to say that need a mobile CD more than 5 times per minute, or more than just 3 per minute when accounting for holding Xeno for optimal moments, is as niche as a 2-minute CD that rewards a Cure II of healing... if any only if you somehow manage to outgame your allies around server lag so that your mere 200p attack lands the finishing blow.

    It's not. It's really not.

    Fire IV and Blizzard IV are mutually exclusive. Flare and Freeze are mutually exclusive. Between the Lines can only ever be used during Ley Lines' cooldown. Despite those 3 far better candidates for pruning, BLM still doesn't have especially high button counts. So, what the heck are we complaining about Scathe for above and beyond the actual button bloat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Archwizard View Post
    If we were to discuss reintroducing Sole Survivor, we would probably need to address its trigger method, much like how we've seen manual triggers added for Lilybell or MCH's burst cooldowns.
    Even then, though, would we necessarily want to put sustain towards a skill that just was fundamentally "get about a TBN's worth of healing, upon <target-related trigger>, per <long CD>"?

    DRK has plenty of room for more self-healing, if we don't want to push that towards some other means of sustain. But, of all the ways of doing that, SS has never seemed a particularly attractive construct.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 07-20-2022 at 09:23 AM.