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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagick View Post
    Lalafell are always the club owners / pimps. It's a massive conspiracy. The Lalafell own and run everything!
    Now this is the kind of lore I can get behind. Finally, the Peaky Blinder Lala gang I've wanted to see XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    It's not stalking to make sure your child is being safe online and not engaging with those who would cause them harm. If your child is afraid of being monitored until they're of an age they can appropriately make decisions, probably means they're doing something wrong already.

    But hey, if you'd rather your kid run wild online that's not my problem either. Just don't really get room to complain about them being around sexual influences at the same time.
    If your child is afraid of telling you what they do, then they're not the one who fucked up.
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  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCoral View Post
    im actrually sick of my life being ruined and my own freedom being made to only lock away with in my house while they shoe their kids every where including on the internet and online stuff...

    Its time we start a war against this culture that kneels and worships kids like they some kind divine entity its time to start a war and make this world how it was meant to be like the animals we relly are.
    Whoa. If you were trying to one up ur energy, you win.
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  4. #184
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    You should not stalk your child. Putting up a personal surveilance state in your home is not going to make you child trust you.
    there's a big difference between "stalking" your child, and taking responsibility and taking care of your child
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    Quote Originally Posted by Setesh45 View Post
    So? Your point is that because the game references rape, it's ok to virtually molest a 13yo? wow
    And to think I didn't see that silly answer. I won't dwell on it any more than necessary - you know very well how limited it is.

    Anyway: what I was trying to say, all lame interpretation aside, is that your "the game is primarily aimed at a young audience" argument is wrong. FFXIV is meant to be open to that type of audience, but it's also aimed at a more mature audience. This is also announced in the warnings given at the beginning of the game.
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  6. #186
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCoral View Post
    im actrually sick of my life being ruined and my own freedom being made to only lock away with in my house while they shove their kids every where including on the internet and online stuff...

    Its time we start a war against this culture that kneels and worships kids like they some kind divine entity its time to start a war and make this world how it was meant to be like the animals we relly are.
    We could make kids of our own and raise them properly. wink wink
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    I think I shall pass on that particular offer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    If your child is afraid of telling you what they do, then they're not the one who fucked up.
    I have no idea what this has to do with taking responsibility for your kids internet habits. Just comes down to:

    - If you don't want your kid around sexual stuff then put up parental blocks.

    - If you don't want to or don't care enough to then you don't really have room to demand the internet babysit your child for you. That should be your job as a parent to establish rules in your household.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 07-18-2022 at 09:00 PM.

  9. #189
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    I have no idea what this has to do with taking responsibility for your kids internet habits. Just comes down to:

    - If you don't want your kid around sexual stuff then put up parental blocks.

    - If you don't want to or don't care enough to then you don't really have room to demand the internet babysit your child for you. That should be your job as a parent to establish rules in your household.
    Perhaps it would be possible to discuss this with a minimum of nuance?

    Parents cannot monitor everything, and it is normal to expect a minimum of decency from the adult population when it comes to children (and therefore to members of society who are still fragile). It's not up to the internet to babysit your child; but it is up to the internet to report embarrassing behaviour. In exactly the same way that if a child gets lost in the street, adults will be expected to take care of them so that nothing happens to them.

    And at the same time, one cannot expect an entire medium to be calibrated entirely around the child, knowing that a large proportion of its audience has come of age. Vigilance without censorship, in short. And above all, no puritanical drifts, where everything should be washed, smoothed and polished to be able to welcome the young public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    Perhaps it would be possible to discuss this with a minimum of nuance?

    Parents cannot monitor everything, and it is normal to expect a minimum of decency from the adult population when it comes to children (and therefore to members of society who are still fragile). It's not up to the internet to babysit your child; but it is up to the internet to report embarrassing behaviour. In exactly the same way that if a child gets lost in the street, adults will be expected to take care of them so that nothing happens to them.

    And at the same time, one cannot expect an entire medium to be calibrated entirely around the child, knowing that a large proportion of its audience has come of age. Vigilance without censorship, in short. And above all, no puritanical drifts, where everything should be washed, smoothed and polished to be able to welcome the young public.
    That's all valid. My only point is that if you, as a parent, want to do nothing to educate your kid online and expect the internet to 100% always act appropriately and take your specific child in mind when interacting with others, you're delusional.

    Which is how I feel some people in this thread and in previous threads on this topic view the situation.

    I've said from the start it's a two way street: adults to avoid engaging with minors and parents to educate their kids on how to stay safe.
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