Time to Restart Housing Demolition

[Catstab]

If you [sic] actual house has been bombed out in an actual war and you're still worried about your FFXIV plot, you probably need to get your priorities straight.

Congratulations on such a myopic statement.

FF14 exists as an escape from real life. It lets you enjoy a role of safety, privilege, and fame when remarkably few of us enjoy all three in real life. For people experiencing the terrors of war, the worst possible kick in the teeth would be to return to their escape, only to find it ripped out from under them as yet another consequence of decisions they didn't get to make.

[WillIrishclover]

I've... talked about this frequently on this forum.

Instanced housing, revamping Island Sanctuaries to include personal housing, something along those lines. The wards are a drain on server resources, we've been told time and again. So institute something instanced. Apartments you can purchase in sizes that aren't the size of a breadbox would be a good start.

I mean this politely, I have a life outside this forum, I am not privy to every post you make so, sorry about that

[Nepentha]

I mean this politely, I have a life outside this forum, I am not privy to every post you make so, sorry about that

Ok, that's fair. You might poke around the forum for a bit though, there's been some honest, good discussion on why instanced housing would be beneficial for the game.

[Puksi]

I am in favor of Yoshida honoring his promise back in the day that FFXIV would never use the cheap leashing tactic of housing demos. Not only should players not be punished for tragedies beyond their control, demos do not respect a player's time and effort into getting a house overall, let alone the furnishings, some of which would be paid for with real money in their (too large) cash shop. It makes Yoshida's advice of "taking a break" seem insincere, and Square's advertising housing as a feature seem like they're selling snake oil.

Whether by instanced housing or new wards, Square can't claim "small indie company, please understand" when XIV is one of their top sources of revenue. The limit is one personal/one FC per account now, iirc. That's a finite number, and they know the demand is very high. The only thing really holding them back is their greed. You know, like they claim more free inventory space is too difficult, but they will gladly rent you more retainers for real $$$$. The "vision" of neighborhoods also sounds like just another excuse, when 95% of the time, wards look completely uninhabited.

Not to mention the poisonous attitudes the scarcity encourages, seen in this very thread. What good ~neighbors~

They need to eliminate the differences between housing sizes regarding gardens. There is no legitimate reason why a small can't have as many garden plots as a large. Apartments should have full garden access. Either gardens should not be reliant on weather, or apartments should be made to reflect the weather of the ward.

Workshops should never have been made an FC-only perk, as the workshop rarely benefits the FC members, only the owners who sell the rare mats and housewalls on the marketboard at inflated prices.

The devs had a chance to roll some of these issues into the Island Sanctuaries, but they opted to not make them actually functional to normal gameplay like Warcraft Garrisons. Because reasons.

TESO has housing that is part of their game zones, not dedicated wards. Click on the house in the world, and you are taken into an instance of that house that is yours alone, yards usually included. That could allow the illusion of a "neighborhood" but still provide the functionality of instanced housing. It would provide an amazing goldsink if they also allowed multiple homes to be owned again, as TESO allows you to collect every house in the game.

There are a lot of possible solutions. It just relies on Square's bottom line. It shouldn't fall to the mercenaries of this community circling players, caught in a murderous war, like vultures.

[JamieRose]

Congratulations on such a myopic statement.

FF14 exists as an escape from real life. It lets you enjoy a role of safety, privilege, and fame when remarkably few of us enjoy all three in real life. For people experiencing the terrors of war, the worst possible kick in the teeth would be to return to their escape, only to find it ripped out from under them as yet another consequence of decisions they didn't get to make.

What blows my mind about these statements is how many people act like they know a god damned thing about me.

[Catstab]

people act like they know a god damned thing about me.

I don't claim to know anything about you, nor did I imply that I did.

All I've said is that your publicly submitted opinion is shortsighted, cruel, and thoughtless. I don't need to know anything about you to ascertain that.

[Silverbane]

For people experiencing the terrors of war, the worst possible kick in the teeth would be to return to their escape, only to find it ripped out from under them as yet another consequence of decisions they didn't get to make.

Spoken like someone who's never met, and certainly never been, a survivor of war or any similar disaster.
Judging from your attitude, odds are you've lived a life free from real want or real suffering,
and accordingly have no clue as to how inconsequential a video game really is.

Someday, the servers will shut down for good, and that will be the worst day of your life, won't it?
Lucky you.

[Puksi]

"Inconsequential", but boy, some people sure are slobbering over others' houses like it matters.

My husband and I still can't return to our home after Hurricane Florence. The damage done was that extensive, and we were some of the fortunate ones in our neighborhood. When we were allowed to return to survey the damage, there was grass growing on our carpets and black mold in the walls. We lost almost everything we didn't have the ability to take with us. We were living out of our car for a while, as the rentals everywhere were full in our area.

This game was a source of solace during all that, but I know ghouls were hoping our housing would be freed up, since the demo timer never was stopped for that hurricane.

So sorry to disappoint.

[Neoyoshi]

They do have to turn in back on eventually.

[Silverbane]

"My husband and I still can't return to our home after Hurricane Florence. The damage done was that extensive ... We were living out of our car for a while, as the rentals everywhere were full in our area. ... So sorry to disappoint.

What's disappointing is you think your experience is comparable to surviving in a war zone.

This lack of perspective and proportion seems a key characteristic of the nastier members of the "keep your house 'til death ... and beyond!" crowd.