Building a better Alphinaud

[Theodric]

Idk, if folks want buff bois (we already have them but oke) in the game for representation sake at that point ANYTHING goes. I don't like it BUT that's only fair

I think that's rather disingenuous. There's a big difference between requesting more of a common aesthetic and one a large portion of players can relate to...and embracing the sort of niche aesthetics that Twitter dwellers fawn over.

But, hey, if you want FFXIV to go the same way as WoW in regards to stripping away all mention of 'male' and female' in favour of 'body 1' and 'body 2' then be my guest. I don't think more than a very vocal minority desire that, though.

[CrownySuccubus]

I think that's rather disingenuous. There's a big difference between requesting more of a common aesthetic and one a large portion of players can relate to...and embracing the sort of niche aesthetics that Twitter dwellers fawn over.

But, hey, if you want FFXIV to go the same way as WoW in regards to stripping away all mention of 'male' and female' in favour of 'body 1' and 'body 2' then be my guest. I don't think more than a very vocal minority desire that, though.

What a silly argument, since this is not a mutually-exclusive problem. If representation is the goal, then you can have both broad kinds of aesthetics.

Also, here we go again with the attempts to poison the well. Apparently, people who disagree are “Twitter dwellers”, and that’s supposed to also be an inherently bad thing.

[Graeham]

Also, here we go again with the attempts to poison the well. Apparently, people who disagree are “Twitter dwellers”, and that’s supposed to also be an inherently bad thing.

We have to quote the famous Final Fantasy streamer Zenos here and say "No No No No No!" rings the bell

Writing against the cause of us is disingenius. As suporter of monarchy in the game kingdom can use the royal we. There is a big amount of the player who is not happy with the story. We do not know number or have the proof but it is big we can feel it. The story must have the naunce so that the good guy is look as bad and the bad guy is look as good. Also the good guy must sacrifice friends so that can know the suffering like the Game of the Thrones. We will tell the writer when we happy the hero character has suffer enough to pay for crime of resisting our cause.

We try to explain the problem on the forum on all of the thread at the same time. But we are always under the attack and pressure by the Twitter crowd and the Reddit crowd and the Wattpad crowd and the Pinterest crowd and the Whatisup crowd and the TickTock crowd and the forum paladins who want to defend the Yoshi's Island Sanctuary due to his crepe personality cult. It is like the university student with the expensive coffee and the burger and the pretend progressive idea.

It is like the comic where the people say this is our myspace and the other people come in to invade the myspace and take over. This is what happened with the Garlemald from the Eorzea who tried to take the land. You must agree to agree even if you disagree. Please is for sake of correcting the course of the story to one where the Ascian and the Garlemald and the Fordola and the Hein rejoin world and be hero of next expansion to replace the Scion.

Otherwise will be like the failed Warcraft direction with the Sylphinas and burning of Teldrassil and game will go extinct because we do not like. This is predict because we can see future and know what make the game good unlike game maker. The Square need the support of us to win or they will lose.

[Raven2014]

[snip]There is a big amount of the player who is not happy with the story. We do not know number or have the proof but it is big we can feel it. [snip]

That's a very long post just to define the word "copium".

Must be nice if we can always convince people of different opinion without proof because we can simply "feel" it. Have you ever tried that at a job interview or when negotiating a pay raise?

[Graeham]

That's a very long post just to define the word "copium".

It is not the copium it is the hopium. Is important so listen.

Let us teach correct way. You see the movie be release with the character you do not like? Example: we do not like the Super Man but there is new movie to be release. Do we keep silence and not watch movie. Wrong. We must write the angry letter to the producer asking them to release the Super Man movie about the Iron Man instead because we like the Iron Man better. This is the same.

Final Fantasy 14 story is written about the Scion at start. This keep happening for the 10 year time. We do not like the Scion or the story or the game but we still pay the money sub. We expect the story to stop being about the Scion but it still not happen. Is strange. So we write the many letter on the forum to get the story direction fix to the one write by the lackluster story writers guild with God Meteo who sacrifice the Loprabbits at end of story to get revenge on the evil God Hydelyn. Soon the Hildabrand story will also be write second time to fix for the relic quest. Will now use the style of Game of the Thrones with the blood shed. Is important for suspence.

There are many of the character that the player must like better than the twin. Character like the God King Varis or the Scottish Fordola or the Mad King Theod of the Al Amigos or the Stranger Knight Jack Garland. These are all the character with the rugged look but not too rugged to make player feel threat. It is the Twitter crowd and the forum paladin who try to enforce the gender fluid attack tech of Omega twins.

World like the democracy but the fiction world should have the diversity so we player can elect type of govern that we want. If we are in the Limsa we should be able to elect the King for Limsa instead of the Minister Merlywerble. If we are in the Gridania we should be able to elect the Dictatorship for Gridania instead of the Seed eaters (I forget the name). This is part of the player choice.

[Raven2014]

We do not like the Scion or the story or the game but we still pay the money sub.

And who is this "We" you're referring to? I'm sure there is more of you, but the copium part here is it seems you want to believe your "we" is the majority without any kind of evidence like you admitted yourself. There are another "we" who enjoy it.

Also I think people seem to mix up something here. If you simply want to say "ok it has been a great ride but we would like something new" I would agree with you. I want to see some new cast taking the spotlight too with the current scion taking the backstage for now. But that's not because the last 10 years is bad, or people the scions story are annoying. For an MMO, FF14 had delivered the most well developed cast of NPC bar none. No other MMO ever since the genre was created has come remotely close in term of story telling, narrative, or character developments. And yes, I'm bolding the MMO for a reason, I hope I don't have to explain what that reason is.

It's ok to say you like something, and want something new at the same time. But these days I feel like it's almost a rule that people are obligated to talk down something in order to say they like something else.

[DPZ2]

This keep happening for the 10 year time. We do not like the Scion or the story or the game but we still pay the money sub.

I had exactly the same thoughts about Sylvanus Windrunner in World of Warcraft ... from the time she became "War Chief" of the Horde. Doesn't mean that the developers of that game have to listen to me, mind you (and they didn't).

You either enjoy the story or stop paying money for it. I chose to abandon WoW. This one is fine. I'm one of those people who actually enjoy the Scions.

You want something different? There's always fan fiction, although that is best posted on AO3, rather than in the forums.

[Vahlnir]

“Twitter dwellers”, and that’s supposed to also be an inherently bad thing.

Twitter is a cesspool of rage and ignorance. Whether you are one of those people or not, I cannot say, and I won't make that assumption. But it's full of them. Twitter was a mistake.

[SturmChurro]

Twitter is a cesspool of rage and ignorance. Whether you are one of those people or not, I cannot say, and I won't make that assumption. But it's full of them. Twitter was a mistake.

I just don't really agree with this claim I've seen that the forums are so horrible as a place to gather feedback, so SE is justified in ignoring it. When other platforms can be similar or worse in terms of feedback. Even if the forums were as bad as some claim, I don't believe that is justification in potentially ignoring the entire platform!

Also, speaking of Twitter, just the other day, I saw some questionable hashtags trending, it was pretty funny actually.

[Vahlnir]

I just don't really agree with this claim I've seen that the forums are so horrible as a place to gather feedback, so SE is justified in ignoring it. When other platforms can be similar or worse in terms of feedback. Even if the forums were as bad as some claim, I don't believe that is justification in potentially ignoring the entire platform!

Also, speaking of Twitter, just the other day, I saw some questionable hashtags trending, it was pretty funny actually.

I think that SE is right to ignore some of what is seen around here, but certainly not all of it. Good ideas/feedback does pop up pretty regularly. It just gets lost in the chaos.