Purge ERP from this game!

[Setesh45]

If your teenagers are running off to meet RL adults, that's a you problem, not an ERP problem. Teach your kids the signs of what to look for, their chances of being preyed upon go down significantly. It's because parents think "sex is icky" and refuse to educate their children on how to avoid predators that such things are so prevelent in the first place. Adults and consenting teens keeping things between teens should not be punished by having activities they enjoy banned just because adults are too damned squeamish to teach their kids how to minimize their risk of exposure to predators.

Yes, obviously you have a lot of experience with children.
You are assuming children have the same degree of understanding and wisdom as adults, they always do what they are told, always go with the right choice.
You are projecting adult behaviour onto children, and not even adults are able to do the right thing at all times.

The human brain fully matures at the age of 25, a 13 year old brain is far from being able to comprehend how the world works.
No matter how good of a parent you are, you cannot expect a 13 year old child to always behave properly, that's why there are so many laws directed at the protection of children.

[redheadturk]

Yes, obviously you have a lot of experience with children.
You are assuming children have the same degree of understanding and wisdom as adults, they always do what they are told, always go with the right choice.
You are projecting adult behaviour onto children, and not even adults are able to do the right thing at all times.

The human brain fully matures at the age of 25, a 13 year old brain is far from being able to comprehend how the world works.
No matter how good of a parent you are, you cannot expect a 13 year old child to always behave properly, that's why there are so many laws directed at the protection of children.

Again watch your damn kids. Guess what? Kids can't play this game unless their parents pay their subs past a certain point. If you don't want your kids under the age of thirteen [which kids under 13 aren't legally supposed to be in this game in the first place without strict parental supervision, accounts have gotten banned because they belonged to kids under 13] exposed to things in this game, don't allow them to have unsupervised internet access or purchase the game. Simple as.

[Setesh45]

Again watch your damn kids. Guess what? Kids can't play this game unless their parents pay their subs past a certain point. If you don't want your kids under the age of thirteen [which kids under 13 aren't legally supposed to be in this game in the first place without strict parental supervision, accounts have gotten banned because they belonged to kids under 13] exposed to things in this game, don't allow them to have unsupervised internet access or purchase the game. Simple as.

Just read the rules dude, ERP is already against the ToS. Smarter people than you and me decided that pretty much on a global level, you can present your argument to them.
All I want is an easier way to report public ERP.

[redheadturk]

Just read the rules dude, ERP is already against the ToS. Smarter people than you and me decided that pretty much on a global level, you can present your argument to them.
All I want is an easier way to report public ERP.

No, public erp is against the rules, not erp in general. Hell, the one GM that tried to ban people for erp party finders? That guy got disciplined and moved to another team and all bans he handed out were rescinded and the marks removed from the records of the players. Why? Because any 18+ activity was performed behind closed doors.

[Setesh45]

No, public erp is against the rules, not erp in general. Hell, the one GM that tried to ban people for erp party finders? That guy got disciplined and moved to another team and all bans he handed out were rescinded and the marks removed from the records of the players. Why? Because any 18+ activity was performed behind closed doors.

That's a complete lie.

[Mosha]

That's a complete lie.

Yoship said it was fine between consensual people in private.

[Setesh45]

Yoship said it was fine between consensual people in private.

Source? Because I call this another lie.
Yoshi-P has a whole legal team watching his every action, saying something like that would mean having a lawsuit on their backs soon as it would not only be against the current game rules, but against the law of most countries.

[redheadturk]

That's a complete lie.

Example 2
In the case of role-playing involving mildly sexual expressions (such as erotic role-playing) with a consenting group of two or more players, if it is conducted in a private area, it will not be considered a violation unless a report is made.
Not a lie, this is from their tos document.

[Setesh45]

Example 2
In the case of role-playing involving mildly sexual expressions (such as erotic role-playing) with a consenting group of two or more players, if it is conducted in a private area, it will not be considered a violation unless a report is made.
Not a lie, this is from their tos document.

"unless a report is made" They are saying it's not against the rules unless they know about it, also it says mildly, the ERP I have seen had nothing to do with "mildly". If people were roleplaying kissing, cuddling and dancing nobody would care.

[Batbrat]

Yes, obviously you have a lot of experience with children.
You are assuming children have the same degree of understanding and wisdom as adults, they always do what they are told, always go with the right choice.
You are projecting adult behaviour onto children, and not even adults are able to do the right thing at all times.
The human brain fully matures at the age of 25, a 13 year old brain is far from being able to comprehend how the world works.
No matter how good of a parent you are, you cannot expect a 13 year old child to always behave properly, that's why there are so many laws directed at the protection of children.

Your job as a parent is to make sure they don't do anything stupid. Any other response is an excuse. I'm very well researched in crime including crimes done to children. ERP is not your enemy. I've said this before and I'll say it again. Your enemy is social media and platforms where kids feel the need to post or exchange about themselves. To name the biggest ones right now; discord and twitter. Those are the main two hubs that I personally see kids make terrible mistakes. People exchange discords all the time in xiv. All the time. Its pretty much a must if you join an fc or a lot of content like raiding which involves using their voices which attracts predators after hearing them speak. These two spaces, young people tend to want to stand out the most. They want to be somebody. They post selfies, they overshare about their real life, they talk to strangers and develop crushes. This is all irl stuff. None of this has anything to do with people roleplaying as two catboys. Do you understand what I'm saying?

Try not to get defensive or argumentative with me. Really think about it.
I'm telling you I've seen this myself. I've seen young kids clearly getting groomed stemming from raiding. Stemming from just posting a lot on twitter and getting a little following. I've seen it. The common denominator is them involving their real lives. Not them pretending to be a vampy looking aura. And when it comes to things like that, that is souly the responsibility of parents. That is their soul obligation. You are to watch your children and what they do online. If something happens, you bare responsibility. Because you should have been watching what they were posting. No one care about what a cool progressive space-giving parent you are when your kid turns up missing because they made friends with someone 30 years older than them in minecraft (which is a true case and the girl has still never been found to this day, shes been gone for 2 years about now). Ok? If you genuinely want to be angry and point fingers and make a fuss about the dangers of the internet for children, point it in the right place, is all I'm saying. Because this isnt it.