Purge ERP from this game!

[Setesh45]

If your teenagers are running off to meet RL adults, that's a you problem, not an ERP problem. Teach your kids the signs of what to look for, their chances of being preyed upon go down significantly. It's because parents think "sex is icky" and refuse to educate their children on how to avoid predators that such things are so prevelent in the first place. Adults and consenting teens keeping things between teens should not be punished by having activities they enjoy banned just because adults are too damned squeamish to teach their kids how to minimize their risk of exposure to predators.

Yes, obviously you have a lot of experience with children.
You are assuming children have the same degree of understanding and wisdom as adults, they always do what they are told, always go with the right choice.
You are projecting adult behaviour onto children, and not even adults are able to do the right thing at all times.

The human brain fully matures at the age of 25, a 13 year old brain is far from being able to comprehend how the world works.
No matter how good of a parent you are, you cannot expect a 13 year old child to always behave properly, that's why there are so many laws directed at the protection of children.

[hagare]

I'm sorry Karen. But we are not a theocracy.

[redheadturk]

Yes, obviously you have a lot of experience with children.
You are assuming children have the same degree of understanding and wisdom as adults, they always do what they are told, always go with the right choice.
You are projecting adult behaviour onto children, and not even adults are able to do the right thing at all times.

The human brain fully matures at the age of 25, a 13 year old brain is far from being able to comprehend how the world works.
No matter how good of a parent you are, you cannot expect a 13 year old child to always behave properly, that's why there are so many laws directed at the protection of children.

Again watch your damn kids. Guess what? Kids can't play this game unless their parents pay their subs past a certain point. If you don't want your kids under the age of thirteen [which kids under 13 aren't legally supposed to be in this game in the first place without strict parental supervision, accounts have gotten banned because they belonged to kids under 13] exposed to things in this game, don't allow them to have unsupervised internet access or purchase the game. Simple as.

[Merrigan]

For someone so old you're quite naive... How do you think pedophiles seek their victims these days? Using "harmless" ERP on social media, it starts as ERP, your "relatively harmless" fun, after a while they agree to meet... Even someone as naive as you should be able to imagine what comes next. People on the internet are anonymous, you cannot know their age, that's why there is nothing like "as long as both parties are teens", you just don't know, cannot know, hence ERP needs to be harshly punished in all media content targeted at minors.

What exactly do you propose? Because with this type of reasoning, we would have to ban all types of games directly, or ban minors from them. Heck, in fact we should ban minors from all types of forums and even almost the entire internet.

If ERP is banned, predators will use other methods. "Whispering", for example. Or Discord. I think you are naive if you think that banning ERP will have any impact on the abuses that can exist in video games.

[Jagick]

I'm sorry Karen. But we are not a theocracy.

Excuse me sir. Early Heavensward Ishgard was meant to be an instruction manual for the workings of a perfectly healthy society with no flaws what so ever.

[GrizzlyTank]

What exactly do you propose? Because with this type of reasoning, we would have to ban all types of games directly, or ban minors from them. Heck, in fact we should ban minors from all types of forums and even almost the entire internet.

If ERP is banned, predators will use other methods. "Whispering", for example. Or Discord. I think you are naive if you think that banning ERP will have any impact on the abuses that can exist in video games.

Because it's nothing to do with children at all, just a means to control and police others.

There is a depressingly large population that wants to ban any kind of mature content and interactions from everything.

[redheadturk]

Because it's nothing to do with children at all, just a means to control and police others.

There is a depressingly large population that wants to ban any kind of mature content and interactions from everything.

This person reminds me of the twatter antiship crusaders. I've run into them, on the whole they are insane.

[Merrigan]

Because it's nothing to do with children at all, just a means to control and police others.

There is a depressingly large population that wants to ban any kind of mature content and interactions from everything.

I think some people are really proposing this from the perspective of protecting children. The questions it raises about infringement of personal freedoms or control are real, but don't seem to be part of the conversation here.

Having said that, I find that there is a huge hypocrisy about the ERP in general. I see a lot of people calling ERP enthusiasts "degenerates" and the like. And I can't help but wonder if they're not consuming some pretty nasty content themselves, but suddenly hide behind the excuse of modesty as soon as the virtual is involved.

ERP is not something I understand personally. But honestly, I'd tend to be much more shocked by some p*rnographic content that goes extremely far into vulgarity; or adds that are sometimes so suggestive that you wonder if they should really be displayed on the street.

[Batbrat]

Yes, obviously you have a lot of experience with children.
You are assuming children have the same degree of understanding and wisdom as adults, they always do what they are told, always go with the right choice.
You are projecting adult behaviour onto children, and not even adults are able to do the right thing at all times.
The human brain fully matures at the age of 25, a 13 year old brain is far from being able to comprehend how the world works.
No matter how good of a parent you are, you cannot expect a 13 year old child to always behave properly, that's why there are so many laws directed at the protection of children.

Your job as a parent is to make sure they don't do anything stupid. Any other response is an excuse. I'm very well researched in crime including crimes done to children. ERP is not your enemy. I've said this before and I'll say it again. Your enemy is social media and platforms where kids feel the need to post or exchange about themselves. To name the biggest ones right now; discord and twitter. Those are the main two hubs that I personally see kids make terrible mistakes. People exchange discords all the time in xiv. All the time. Its pretty much a must if you join an fc or a lot of content like raiding which involves using their voices which attracts predators after hearing them speak. These two spaces, young people tend to want to stand out the most. They want to be somebody. They post selfies, they overshare about their real life, they talk to strangers and develop crushes. This is all irl stuff. None of this has anything to do with people roleplaying as two catboys. Do you understand what I'm saying?

Try not to get defensive or argumentative with me. Really think about it.
I'm telling you I've seen this myself. I've seen young kids clearly getting groomed stemming from raiding. Stemming from just posting a lot on twitter and getting a little following. I've seen it. The common denominator is them involving their real lives. Not them pretending to be a vampy looking aura. And when it comes to things like that, that is souly the responsibility of parents. That is their soul obligation. You are to watch your children and what they do online. If something happens, you bare responsibility. Because you should have been watching what they were posting. No one care about what a cool progressive space-giving parent you are when your kid turns up missing because they made friends with someone 30 years older than them in minecraft (which is a true case and the girl has still never been found to this day, shes been gone for 2 years about now). Ok? If you genuinely want to be angry and point fingers and make a fuss about the dangers of the internet for children, point it in the right place, is all I'm saying. Because this isnt it.

[Setesh45]

What exactly do you propose? Because with this type of reasoning, we would have to ban all types of games directly, or ban minors from them. Heck, in fact we should ban minors from all types of forums and even almost the entire internet.

If ERP is banned, predators will use other methods. "Whispering", for example. Or Discord. I think you are naive if you think that banning ERP will have any impact on the abuses that can exist in video games.

What I propose? Nothing but following the ToS. ERP is already against the rules.

"You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly."

Everyone here trying to justify ERP is basically saying it's ok to break the rules that already exist. Saying it's ok to ERP with 13 years old kids.
I'm only asking for a simpler way to report public ERP and stricter punishments.

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