Purge ERP from this game!

[Setesh45]

What exactly do you propose? Because with this type of reasoning, we would have to ban all types of games directly, or ban minors from them. Heck, in fact we should ban minors from all types of forums and even almost the entire internet.

If ERP is banned, predators will use other methods. "Whispering", for example. Or Discord. I think you are naive if you think that banning ERP will have any impact on the abuses that can exist in video games.

What I propose? Nothing but following the ToS. ERP is already against the rules.

"You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly."

Everyone here trying to justify ERP is basically saying it's ok to break the rules that already exist. Saying it's ok to ERP with 13 years old kids.
I'm only asking for a simpler way to report public ERP and stricter punishments.

https://support.na.square-enix.com/r...1&tag=users_en

[george357]

boy this got boring really fast guess 8 padges was the burnout point.

[Jagick]

What I propose? Nothing but following the ToS. ERP is already against the rules.

"You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly."

Everyone here trying to justify ERP is basically saying it's ok to break the rules that already exist. Saying it's ok to ERP with 13 years old kids.
I'm only asking for a simpler way to report public ERP and stricter punishments.

https://support.na.square-enix.com/r...1&tag=users_en

I've never understood ToS documents that include this clause when the game itself has profanity (a lot of it voice acted) baked into the game itself and other pretty heavy and elicit subject matter being discussed or mentioned. What defines a reasonable person and what defines offensive? In the context of public discourse that could be just about anything depending on your walk in life.

In this case, no one can see what they're doing or saying (again, public ERP is another matter entirely.) The last thing we need are some Home-Owners Association tier loons going up and banging on their doors and windows to threaten them with harsh reprisals for the words they type.

[Merrigan]

What I propose? Nothing but following the ToS. ERP is already against the rules.

"You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly."

Everyone here trying to justify ERP is basically saying it's ok to break the rules that already exist. Saying it's ok to ERP with 13 years old kids.
I'm only asking for a simpler way to report public ERP and stricter punishments.

https://support.na.square-enix.com/r...1&tag=users_en

Okay, just... no.

Keeping a certain politeness between players, reminding them that they are not just talking to bots but to people they owe some respect: yes. It helps to minimize the toxic behavior that too many people allow themselves under the guise of anonymity.

Calibrating everything so that it is accessible and politically correct is another problem. That's how you get tasteless games. Especially since some parts of the game are much less "politically correct" than ERP.

Endwalker's story can be deeply depressing at times.
Direct references to rape are made frequently.
Miqo'te are often referred to as prostitutes; only the word is never uttered, but it is crystal clear.

From this, it is clear that SE has opted for an environment that is not all rosy, and whose undertones are accessible to an adult audience. I would also point out that the rules you mention do not prohibit ERP at all, as long as it is done by "whisp" / offered in a respectful way / in adapted places (cf: some "brothels" in housing areas)

[Setesh45]

Okay, just... no.

Keeping a certain politeness between players, reminding them that they are not just talking to bots but to people they owe some respect: yes. It helps to minimize the toxic behavior that too many people allow themselves under the guise of anonymity.

Calibrating everything so that it is accessible and politically correct is another problem. That's how you get tasteless games. Especially since some parts of the game are much less "politically correct" than ERP.

Endwalker's story can be deeply depressing at times.
Direct references to rape are made frequently.
Miqo'te are often referred to as prostitutes; only the word is never uttered, but it is crystal clear.

From this, it is clear that SE has opted for an environment that is not all rosy, and whose undertones are accessible to an adult audience. I would also point out that the rules you mention do not prohibit ERP at all, as long as it is done by "whisp" / offered in a respectful way / in adapted places (cf: some "brothels" in housing areas)

So? Your point is that because the game references rape, it's ok to virtually molest a 13yo? wow

[Mosha]

So? Your point is that because the game references rape, it's ok to virtually molest a 13yo? wow

wow, that's so disingenuous to what you are replying to.

[Merrigan]

So? Your point is that because the game references rape, it's ok to virtually molest a 13yo? wow

And to think I didn't see that silly answer. I won't dwell on it any more than necessary - you know very well how limited it is.

Anyway: what I was trying to say, all lame interpretation aside, is that your "the game is primarily aimed at a young audience" argument is wrong. FFXIV is meant to be open to that type of audience, but it's also aimed at a more mature audience. This is also announced in the warnings given at the beginning of the game.

[Mosha]

Everyone here trying to justify ERP is basically saying it's ok to break the rules that already exist. Saying it's ok to ERP with 13 years old kids.
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Are you a Spartan? because that's a fucking Reach holy shit