Purge ERP from this game!

[Merrigan]

For someone so old you're quite naive... How do you think pedophiles seek their victims these days? Using "harmless" ERP on social media, it starts as ERP, your "relatively harmless" fun, after a while they agree to meet... Even someone as naive as you should be able to imagine what comes next. People on the internet are anonymous, you cannot know their age, that's why there is nothing like "as long as both parties are teens", you just don't know, cannot know, hence ERP needs to be harshly punished in all media content targeted at minors.

What exactly do you propose? Because with this type of reasoning, we would have to ban all types of games directly, or ban minors from them. Heck, in fact we should ban minors from all types of forums and even almost the entire internet.

If ERP is banned, predators will use other methods. "Whispering", for example. Or Discord. I think you are naive if you think that banning ERP will have any impact on the abuses that can exist in video games.

[GrizzlyTank]

What exactly do you propose? Because with this type of reasoning, we would have to ban all types of games directly, or ban minors from them. Heck, in fact we should ban minors from all types of forums and even almost the entire internet.

If ERP is banned, predators will use other methods. "Whispering", for example. Or Discord. I think you are naive if you think that banning ERP will have any impact on the abuses that can exist in video games.

Because it's nothing to do with children at all, just a means to control and police others.

There is a depressingly large population that wants to ban any kind of mature content and interactions from everything.

[redheadturk]

Because it's nothing to do with children at all, just a means to control and police others.

There is a depressingly large population that wants to ban any kind of mature content and interactions from everything.

This person reminds me of the twatter antiship crusaders. I've run into them, on the whole they are insane.

[Merrigan]

Because it's nothing to do with children at all, just a means to control and police others.

There is a depressingly large population that wants to ban any kind of mature content and interactions from everything.

I think some people are really proposing this from the perspective of protecting children. The questions it raises about infringement of personal freedoms or control are real, but don't seem to be part of the conversation here.

Having said that, I find that there is a huge hypocrisy about the ERP in general. I see a lot of people calling ERP enthusiasts "degenerates" and the like. And I can't help but wonder if they're not consuming some pretty nasty content themselves, but suddenly hide behind the excuse of modesty as soon as the virtual is involved.

ERP is not something I understand personally. But honestly, I'd tend to be much more shocked by some p*rnographic content that goes extremely far into vulgarity; or adds that are sometimes so suggestive that you wonder if they should really be displayed on the street.

[Setesh45]

What exactly do you propose? Because with this type of reasoning, we would have to ban all types of games directly, or ban minors from them. Heck, in fact we should ban minors from all types of forums and even almost the entire internet.

If ERP is banned, predators will use other methods. "Whispering", for example. Or Discord. I think you are naive if you think that banning ERP will have any impact on the abuses that can exist in video games.

What I propose? Nothing but following the ToS. ERP is already against the rules.

"You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly."

Everyone here trying to justify ERP is basically saying it's ok to break the rules that already exist. Saying it's ok to ERP with 13 years old kids.
I'm only asking for a simpler way to report public ERP and stricter punishments.

https://support.na.square-enix.com/r...1&tag=users_en

[george357]

boy this got boring really fast guess 8 padges was the burnout point.

[Jagick]

What I propose? Nothing but following the ToS. ERP is already against the rules.

"You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly."

Everyone here trying to justify ERP is basically saying it's ok to break the rules that already exist. Saying it's ok to ERP with 13 years old kids.
I'm only asking for a simpler way to report public ERP and stricter punishments.

https://support.na.square-enix.com/r...1&tag=users_en

I've never understood ToS documents that include this clause when the game itself has profanity (a lot of it voice acted) baked into the game itself and other pretty heavy and elicit subject matter being discussed or mentioned. What defines a reasonable person and what defines offensive? In the context of public discourse that could be just about anything depending on your walk in life.

In this case, no one can see what they're doing or saying (again, public ERP is another matter entirely.) The last thing we need are some Home-Owners Association tier loons going up and banging on their doors and windows to threaten them with harsh reprisals for the words they type.

[Merrigan]

What I propose? Nothing but following the ToS. ERP is already against the rules.

"You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly."

Everyone here trying to justify ERP is basically saying it's ok to break the rules that already exist. Saying it's ok to ERP with 13 years old kids.
I'm only asking for a simpler way to report public ERP and stricter punishments.

https://support.na.square-enix.com/r...1&tag=users_en

Okay, just... no.

Keeping a certain politeness between players, reminding them that they are not just talking to bots but to people they owe some respect: yes. It helps to minimize the toxic behavior that too many people allow themselves under the guise of anonymity.

Calibrating everything so that it is accessible and politically correct is another problem. That's how you get tasteless games. Especially since some parts of the game are much less "politically correct" than ERP.

Endwalker's story can be deeply depressing at times.
Direct references to rape are made frequently.
Miqo'te are often referred to as prostitutes; only the word is never uttered, but it is crystal clear.

From this, it is clear that SE has opted for an environment that is not all rosy, and whose undertones are accessible to an adult audience. I would also point out that the rules you mention do not prohibit ERP at all, as long as it is done by "whisp" / offered in a respectful way / in adapted places (cf: some "brothels" in housing areas)

[Setesh45]

Okay, just... no.

Keeping a certain politeness between players, reminding them that they are not just talking to bots but to people they owe some respect: yes. It helps to minimize the toxic behavior that too many people allow themselves under the guise of anonymity.

Calibrating everything so that it is accessible and politically correct is another problem. That's how you get tasteless games. Especially since some parts of the game are much less "politically correct" than ERP.

Endwalker's story can be deeply depressing at times.
Direct references to rape are made frequently.
Miqo'te are often referred to as prostitutes; only the word is never uttered, but it is crystal clear.

From this, it is clear that SE has opted for an environment that is not all rosy, and whose undertones are accessible to an adult audience. I would also point out that the rules you mention do not prohibit ERP at all, as long as it is done by "whisp" / offered in a respectful way / in adapted places (cf: some "brothels" in housing areas)

So? Your point is that because the game references rape, it's ok to virtually molest a 13yo? wow

[Mosha]

So? Your point is that because the game references rape, it's ok to virtually molest a 13yo? wow

wow, that's so disingenuous to what you are replying to.