Am i really the only one that dislike Yoshi-P ?

[Midareyukki]

From a Viera pov, I get the demand for hairstyles, hats, ears that move and the lack, but show me where he says "too hard". Also show me this amateur who can roll out in one night the makings of a playable race and it fit into this game flawlessly. Maybe I missed that bulletin, but this is exactly how assumptions start and things get misguided, misinterpreted and spread. How can I get informed, as you say, when statements like these are made and far too often? I feel it should be base on what we know as fact, when we give our feedback, not what we assume we know. So please inform me.

I told you: search what happened on April 1st. Literally do the job yourself, I gave you the key.

If YOU are going to talk about a topic, then I expect YOU to know what you're on about, and not generalize it out of "Oh that's what I think happened". There are easily three threads on the matter, one of which has a parroted answer by a Community Dev. That's the answer you're going to want.

I shouldn't be the one informing you. I've been writing on this topic and explaining so many people like you what the deal actually is. I'm resigned to thinking you guys just don't give a darn. I've written what Hrothgar wanted and how we got to that conclusion so many times, if you yourself haven't grasped it, it's your own fault. My job isn't to educate you, merely point to the direction you need.

Also, protip, sis? You're not a Hrothgar. You are a Viera. What happened to us was something that didn't happen to you. Maybe next time you stop lumping the two of us as if we share the problem. We're not on the same boat at all. Hrothgars even feel like feedback from Hrothgar players was ignored and subsequently mistaken for Viera feedback, something that we alerted to in said threads. So don't expect you yourself to know what happened to us, nor what it was Hrothgar players discussed. Because to my knowledge, it didn't concern you and very narrowly bled into Viera threads. It was just the one megathread, and barely even that at all.

You do the work.

Because I've been talking about this so often it's frankly just annoying. Stuff is in these forums, you do the work yourself, like many people had to.

[Mosha]

Not to sounds too spicy or anything but, some of you need to calm down.

as someone, who comes from a different game, I should admit Yoshi-P is much better at what he does than people who hold similar positions in other games.

And Yes,even if he's a business man (not saying he is) ,he does business while also trying to accommodate community needs to a decent degree (we still want instanced housing tho), rather than focusing on solely profit.

Reasonable comment?!!??!!

[Moshimoshikami]

Do you not notice the vast contrast from the man who cries over delaying content and the man who mocks his own playerbase for being too needy?
I swear, he lets the mask slip now and then and people like you buy it anyway, hook, line and sinker.

The man is a buisness man selling you a product, not your son.

Yoshida is not an actor paid by Square Enix to fake tears and do some sick marketing.
He's a pationate game developper with huge responsabilities on his shoulders.
He's dedicating his life to make ff14 successful.
Who the hell are you to criticize him for crying when things are rough?

Also he has never mocking in an ill intended way the playerbase.
Its only the playerbase overreacting to a joke about an issue he is aware about.

[kpxmanifesto]

Yoshida is not an actor paid by Square Enix to fake tears and do some sick marketing.
He's a pationate game developper with huge responsabilities on his shoulders.
He's dedicating his life to make ff14 successful.
Who the hell are you to criticize him for crying when things are rough?

Also he has never mocking in an ill intended way the playerbase.
Its only the playerbase overreacting to a joke about an issue he is aware about.

I somewhat disagree with this. While him crying was probably genuine, the guy is in fact paid by SE to help promote and sell the game. Sure he's passionate about developing and helping FFXIV grow, but he does this also with the ulterior motive of generating as much profit as possible for the corporation that he's an employee of. It's just his job to do so and it's why SE chose him to take over the project.

[Moshimoshikami]

I somewhat disagree with this. While him crying was probably genuine, the guy is in fact paid by SE to help promote and sell the game. Sure he's passionate about developing and helping FFXIV grow, but he does this also for the ulterior motive of generating as much profit as possible for the corporation that he's an employee of. It's just his job to do so and it's why SE chose him to take over the project.

And who cares? Obviously he must make sure the game generates profit, otherwise it will die.
You are free to believe what you want, but I am pretty confident Yoshida's focus is to make a great game and not to make money he has no time to spend.

[kpxmanifesto]

And who cares? Obviously he must make sure the game generates profit, otherwise it will die.
You are free to believe what you want, but I am pretty confident Yoshida's focus is to make a great game and not to make money he has no time to spend.

The players do of course. It's an issue when the company takes your money and doesn't resolve any of the existing problems or works very slowly to correct them. That's why the forums has many complaint threads.

[AwesomeJr44]

Not to sounds too spicy or anything but, some of you need to calm down.

as someone, who comes from a different game, I should admit Yoshi-P is much better at what he does than people who hold similar positions in other games.

And Yes,even if he's a business man (not saying he is) ,he does business while also trying to accommodate community needs to a decent degree (we still want instanced housing tho), rather than focusing on solely profit.

I've never liked this argument. "It's not as bad as x, y, or z, so you can't call out its flaws." We get it. WoW is worse than FF. Lost Ark is worse than FF. That doesn't mean that Yoshi gets a pass when he screws something up. And the more people try to use this excuse to give Yoshi free passes, the more you're going to have people dislike Yoshi because of how easy he has it despite screwing things up.

Do you not notice the vast contrast from the man who cries over delaying content and the man who mocks his own playerbase for being too needy?
I swear, he lets the mask slip now and then and people like you buy it anyway, hook, line and sinker.

The man is a business man selling you a product, not your son.

Thank you. Someone realizes that this man is a businessman first, and isn't your friend.

Yoshida is not an actor paid by Square Enix to fake tears and do some sick marketing.
He's a pationate game developper with huge responsabilities on his shoulders.

That's the persona he's sold you. He's successfully gotten you to buy into it.

He's dedicating his life to make ff14 successful.

Cause it makes him the dolla bills. I'm sure that if we took away his payment, he'd certainly still be working on FF14, cause he cares so much!

Who the hell are you to criticize him for crying when things are rough?

A paying customer that not only desires but EXPECTS a quality product, and does not seeing Yoshi P crying every other LL as a valid excuse for why the product is not up to par. It worked the first time, but he's overplayed his hand and I don't care if he's upset or not anymore. Deliver me a quality product and I'll start caring again.

Also he has never mocking in an ill intended way the playerbase. Its only the playerbase overreacting to a joke about an issue he is aware about.

It wasn't a funny joke, and it was incredibly tone deaf if it even was one.

[Moshimoshikami]

I've never liked this argument. "It's not as bad as x, y, or z, so you can't call out its flaws." We get it. WoW is worse than FF. Lost Ark is worse than FF. That doesn't mean that Yoshi gets a pass when he screws something up. And the more people try to use this excuse to give Yoshi free passes, the more you're going to have people dislike Yoshi because of how easy he has it despite screwing things up.

Thank you. Someone realizes that this man is a businessman first, and isn't your friend.

That's the persona he's sold you. He's successfully gotten you to buy into it.

Cause it makes him the dolla bills. I'm sure that if we took away his payment, he'd certainly still be working on FF14, cause he cares so much!

A paying customer that not only desires but EXPECTS a quality product, and does not seeing Yoshi P crying every other LL as a valid excuse for why the product is not up to par. It worked the first time, but he's overplayed his hand and I don't care if he's upset or not anymore. Deliver me a quality product and I'll start caring again.

It wasn't a funny joke, and it was incredibly tone deaf if it even was one.

I am not going to rely on the baseless statements of a stranger on FF14 forum to forge my opinions.

There are many improvement I wish for the game.
But since ARR I am sastified with my FF14 experience, and I have great hopes for the future.
I will stop trusting Yoshida and his team once they gave me a real reason to, because so far they have not.

[Bukachu]

I've never liked this argument. "It's not as bad as x, y, or z, so you can't call out its flaws." That doesn't mean that Yoshi gets a pass when he screws something up. And the more people try to use this excuse to give Yoshi free passes, the more you're going to have people dislike Yoshi because of how easy he has it despite screwing things up.

I Never said you shouldn't call out someones flaws.


I said, he's much better at what he does, in my opinion, than other people who hold similar positions. simple as

[SendohJin]

I would like to know how some of the things I spelled out on the first page are unreasonable expectations.

what exactly are your expectations? most of them were just observations/opinions without much behind it. i'll take a stab at a couple.

Turning Blue Mage into a limited job despite its FFXI predecessor being able to participate in the same content as any other job, and no such limitations being imposed on the other jack of all trades, Red Mage.

The disastrous implementation of Eureka's first 2 zones, which was eventually remedied to some degree in their handling of Bozja.

The continued mismanagement of my favourite job, Summoner.

FFXI doesn't balance jobs against each other. I've told people to level other jobs or be denied entry into content in XI, that doesn't really happen in XIV. FFXI having BLU has nothing to do with FFXIV having BLU, that is an unreasonable expectation.

Yea, Eureka was bad and Bozja was better. Diadem was also the predecessor of Eureka and it was so bad it doesn't even exist anymore as battle content. They learn from their mistakes and do better the next time, what does that have to do with your expectations? Did you expect them to have changed Eureka into Bozja during patches?

I like the current iteration of Summoner, it can be better but it's good right now. Not everyone is going to like every job, expecting them to design Summoner to your liking is unreasonable because you're just one person.