Am i really the only one that dislike Yoshi-P ?

[Arazehl]

I like him a lot, but he also annoys me to no end. I wish he'd level with us and explain specifically why he's unwilling to do something or if it's "impossible" tell us the real reason why rather than saying the tired old "data can't handle it."

Truth and clear communication. It isn't much to ask for in a subscription based game.

Maybe just maybe when he says he can't do something he is not lying and when he says he'll look into it for consideration, that they actually do. Maybe they don't, but a 50 cent a day subscription doesn't mean you've got a spot on Board of Directors and should be given a play by play on what their team is working on either. All they seem to ask for is respect for a team that has put long hours and sleepless nights to produce a game that is certainly worth playing and worth my subscription fee. *shrugs*

[Ronduwil]

Best part isn't the dev abuse thing, but the fact you can't criticize him at all or his rabid defenders come out to lick boots.

I hate that type of defender regardless of who they're defending though.

Agreeing with someone is not the same as defending them. It just so happens that I agree with Yoshi-P with regard to most of the stuff he's said. I can't think of one thing he said that ever offended me, including the idea that *gasp* maybe we phrase our criticism constructively and ditch the vitriol. There's a difference between "mincing words" (as the OP put it) and stating your point respectfully. Calling devs nasty names and questioning their competence does not clarify your gripes in any manner. If anything, they're a distraction from the potentially valid points that dissenters are trying to make.

[Kaurhz]

Agreeing with someone is not the same as defending them. It just so happens that I agree with Yoshi-P with regard to most of the stuff he's said. I can't think of one thing he said that ever offended me, including the idea that *gasp* maybe we phrase our criticism constructively and ditch the vitriol. There's a difference between "mincing words" (as the OP put it) and stating your point respectfully. Calling devs nasty names and questioning their competence does not clarify your gripes in any manner. If anything, they're a distraction from the potentially valid points that dissenters are trying to make.

Nah you see. You misunderstand because someone criticizes the game, this means we are obligated to agree with them or be quiet, we don't do debates around here.

[Theodric]

I don't dislike the guy. I just dislike the creepy cult that has been built up around him.

[Toutatis]

The way he asks the players to be nice and not to say nasty things.

It's normal that there are angry players because of the many problems in the game, I think it's ridiculous to cry because some people don't mince their words.

It's borderline threatening if you ever get a little angry at Yoshi and his team
I think it's a total inversion of values, we pay for the game with our money but we have absolutely no rights, we are the ones who should be respectful and grateful even though we are the customers

The customer is no longer the king, the customer is no longer respected and listened to

Yoshi is right: there is no excuse for verbal abuse and insults. You can remain polite and still voice your criticism. Being a customer does not entitle one to treat people like trash or to make threats. Customers who act like trash themselves deserve the boot. People should learn some manners and get their anger under control.

[TaleraRistain]

Wait, what happened now? I haven't checked Lodestone today. Did he have to tell people to stop sending death threats to the devs again?

[Arazehl]

I don't dislike the guy. I just dislike the creepy cult that has been built up around him.

I respect the man and I get bothered more by those who hate on others that doesn't feel the way they do. This can work both ways. There are two side to a coin here and already I see the one sided coin starting to rear it's ugly head before the thread is that old by a couple of posts I read. Why so many assume a lot and expect more is beyond me.

I respect your opinion, but in the same post I dislike the use of creepy cult to describe an opinion that differs. I don't think that part is at all fair in any way.

[Gothicshark]

The way he asks the players to be nice and not to say nasty things.

It's normal that there are angry players because of the many problems in the game, I think it's ridiculous to cry because some people don't mince their words.

It's borderline threatening if you ever get a little angry at Yoshi and his team
I think it's a total inversion of values, we pay for the game with our money but we have absolutely no rights, we are the ones who should be respectful and grateful even though we are the customers

The customer is no longer the king, the customer is no longer respected and listened to

Disagreeing with someone, having a complaint about something is fine, no one is saying you can not voice your opinions, what they are asking, in a very polite way is to not be toxic with your opinions. If you dislike a thing it's fine to say "yeah I don't like X because Y & Z are not fun to me" you are not allowed to say "You #%^& X is the worst thing in the world you should die, because of Y & Z"

Best part isn't the dev abuse thing, but the fact you can't criticize him at all or his rabid defenders come out to lick boots.

I hate that type of defender regardless of who they're defending though.

And yet, the second post of this thread shows valid complaints about Yoshi-P and no one argued against that poster, instead they have a bunch of thumbs ups.

[Vahlnir]

I don't dislike the guy. I just dislike the creepy cult that has been built up around him.

Yeah. Admittedly, this is my biggest issue in regard to Yoshi P, and I've got my fair share of problems with his approach to certain things.

[Striker44]

However, if an issue (or many issues) goes unaddressed for a long enough period of time, then I think it is completely understandable for people to lose their patience and adopt a harsher tone. Solution? Stop ignoring them and stop making excuses that no one buys anymore.

But perhaps there's a bigger picture being missed there. Perhaps what that one person considers an "issue" is something that the majority of the playerbase far and away enjoys. Making significant changes to the game to appease a minuscule minority while turning off the huge majority in the process would be a horrible business decision. Even the tone of what I've quoted here deals in absolutes that bear no resemblance to reality. Everyone is welcome to have an opinion, and getting frustrated when the changes one personally desires don't happen is also sadly common, but stepping back and seeing the whole situation of a game played by hundreds of thousands of people is important.