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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Not a Viera expert either but

    Seems to me the only time Vieras have ever been represented with their ears a bit higher than they look like was on FF Tactics Advance 2. The RDM's hat has ears that start on the hat rather than her skull. And that's just artwork.
    Apart from that? Every Viera had normal ears.

    I don't know where Yoshida and co. hallucinated these ears being higher as a standard, but they need to lay off the Gysahl Greens. It's getting in the way of their game-making abilities.
    It's not just Viera and Hrothgar suffering. Name one patch that hasn't had something really stupid since Endwalker Early Access.

    I think Square just wants to stealthily smother this game. Either that or see just how low we'll sink. How far we'll make up excuses for them.
    I really just feel like this justification for not giving them headgear, because viera ears are higher up, is SUCH a stretch. Especially as it does seem to be averse to previous viera design. Literaly just an excuse to not do it. I can't speak for others, but having headgear available over "customizable ears" is something I'd take. I really just feel like they were/are dead set on these races being limited, and that sucks. Just giving hrothgar ears on their hair, might as well be insurmountable, because they just don't want to do it. Them not wanting to do it is, I think, the biggest issue here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I really just feel like this justification for not giving them headgear, because viera ears are higher up, is SUCH a stretch. Especially as it does seem to be averse to previous viera design. Literaly just an excuse to not do it. I can't speak for others, but having headgear available over "customizable ears" is something I'd take. I really just feel like they were/are dead set on these races being limited, and that sucks. Just giving hrothgar ears on their hair, might as well be insurmountable, because they just don't want to do it. Them not wanting to do it is, I think, the biggest issue here.
    It is. And all we can hope is that they look at people talking about what's going on and reconsider. But it just feels like it's set in stone now, and that garbage quality is what we'll get. That it's okay to sacrifice us.

    If that really isn't their opinion, then I challenge them to be straightforward with us and say so. Otherwise that's just how we'll all be feeling. A feeling that makes us think "welp, they won't care that we feel this way, no matter how much they claim otherwise. Results speak for themselves".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    It is. And all we can hope is that they look at people talking about what's going on and reconsider. But it just feels like it's set in stone now, and that garbage quality is what we'll get. That it's okay to sacrifice us.

    If that really isn't their opinion, then I challenge them to be straightforward with us and say so. Otherwise that's just how we'll all be feeling. A feeling that makes us think "welp, they won't care that we feel this way, no matter how much they claim otherwise. Results speak for themselves".
    Even if they do, hrothgar were still developed into a corner with their faces. Making it way harder than it should be to add options, supposedly. To me, it doesn't look like they are, although I heard that male viera are different, so maybe in the future, for viera at least, they might change their mind. At least a little bit. Hrothgar, seem to be completely out of luck, and I think when we see how female hrothgar turn out, that will be the last nail in the coffin. If they are made with just as many limitations, that just tells me they have literally no intention on ever fixing hrothgar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Even if they do, hrothgar were still developed into a corner with their faces. Making it way harder than it should be to add options, supposedly. To me, it doesn't look like they are, although I heard that male viera are different, so maybe in the future, for viera at least, they might change their mind. At least a little bit. Hrothgar, seem to be completely out of luck, and I think when we see how female hrothgar turn out, that will be the last nail in the coffin. If they are made with just as many limitations, that just tells me they have literally no intention on ever fixing hrothgar.
    Yes, but I'm, as I always have been, implying that they'll need to unsh*t themselves and make the faces actually work properly. Whether they do or not, it's on them, but people have been asking for this to be addressed for far longer than these hairstyles have been around.

    Still, I'm in "whatever" mode and just resigned myself to encourage modders as much as I can. And if Square has a problem with it, they can kiss my front bottom. Because they really have zero reasons to complain about modding being a thing if that's their paradigm going forward.

    Clearly this is how they're designing the rest of the game, so why would they care?
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