Please give us instant housing

[KhudusQestir]

Apartments and FC rooms is instanced housing.

I've heard this trolling response before and all I gotta say is... who calls an apt a house? You gotta be lieing to yourself to call your own apt a house... like you didn't want to feel that poor or something.
I'm also very sure you know people want bigger spaces to decorate, yard and all.

Many of us have been asking for improvements to the current instanced housing system for years. It would be nice to hear from SE why it will or will not happen.

I'm sure people have been, but I don't think that's a reason for people to stop asking for it though. Annoy them enough with kindness and eventually, they'll give up and give it if not finally answer us.

And agreed, being able to correct titles for our threads would be a nice QOL improvement. But as serious as the topic is intended to be, try to look at the light side: the typo has brought a few smiles to a forum that has been mostly doom and gloom of late.

Oh, I'm not mad at all about the trolling. It's a tad disappointing to have my forum trolled but you are also right, it brought some laughs so I'll take it. It is what it is. I was trying to be humorous with my edit too but oh well ^.^;;

[Shibi]

It's a tad disappointing to have my forum trolled but you are also right, it brought some laughs so I'll take it. It is what it is. I was trying to be humorous with my edit too but oh well ^.^;;

Any day you can bring a smile to someone's face is a good day. Your topic isn't reduced at all by the clearly unintentional error as the meaning is perfectly clear to us - but it brings joy and giggles. If anything, it becomes a positive thread that carries more weight.

Instanced housing would solve so many problems, and the ward system doesn't have to be dismantled to provide it. Additionally, Island Sanctuary should really be putting to bed the "we can't do instancing because servers are hard to come by" community invented excuse. And I stress that "invented".

[Solarra]

Instanced housing would solve so many problems, and the ward system doesn't have to be dismantled to provide it. Additionally, Island Sanctuary should really be putting to bed the "we can't do instancing because servers are hard to come by" community invented excuse. And I stress that "invented".

This^
How long have we been saying this?

I am so tired of people trying to come up with inventive ways to redistribute what we have. Take houses off players who do 'x'...
('...and give one to me', presumably)

I am so tired of people inventing excuses for Square. This house shortage has been going on for as long as I've been playing the game (HW). The least the devs could do is come out and make a statement on the state of housing and the reasoning behind it.

The lottery is just rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. The present system doesn't give EU and NA players enough houses, the lottery is not going to improve supply and supply is the issue.

Island sanctuary proves they had resourses available that could give every single character a private instance, that's a lot more instances than would be needed for every interested player to get a private house.

[KhudusQestir]

The lottery is just rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. The present system doesn't give EU and NA players enough houses, the lottery is not going to improve supply and supply is the issue.

The lottery system is just more intimidating than a real fix. I use to feel I had SOME KIND OF CHANCE with IDK maybe a 20% or something when the clicking war was a thing. Now when I place a bid, I feel I have a 0.000something chance. The only fix is we don't have to sit in front of the plot for a whole day. In return, we now see how many people are after a house with not enough being provided. I hope this change from clicking war to bidding is more of an eye-opener to SE as it is to the players on how many are competing for a house and how many are disappointed in not getting one.

I know people who want a house but won't bid because the odds of winning are just way too insane. It's like trying to win a lottery... but the prize is only a digital house so it's not even worth stressing over half of the time. When I go place a bid, I expect to lose and call the deadline 'The Day I Get My Gil Back.'

Any day you can bring a smile to someone's face is a good day. Your topic isn't reduced at all by the clearly unintentional error as the meaning is perfectly clear to us - but it brings joy and giggles. If anything, it becomes a positive thread that carries more weight.

Thank you for your positivity <3
I fully agree!

[Kenky]

I've heard this trolling response before and all I gotta say is... who calls an apt a house?

Are you saying the hundreds of thousands of people living in apartments / flats don't have a home? There are people that are content with a 6ft x 6ft square. Often paying beyond-stupid prices for it (you need only look at flats in London / New York as example.) Calling Apartments "not housing" or claiming anyone bringing them (and FC rooms by proxy) to be 'trolls' works very much against your desire.

Instant housing? Not going to happen. Period. You get a House in the Wards, or an Apartment / FC room where you can. Those are your options. Take 'em or leave 'em.

Can they change that so that everyone gets a house? Definitely. Do I want them to fix it so that everyone gets a house? Definitely. Do I think Square Enix will actually make that change? Unlikely.

[MaeveHatesHousing]

Are you saying the hundreds of thousands of people living in apartments / flats don't have a home? There are people that are content with a 6ft x 6ft square. Often paying beyond-stupid prices for it (you need only look at flats in London / New York as example.) Calling Apartments "not housing" or claiming anyone bringing them (and FC rooms by proxy) to be 'trolls' works very much against your desire.

Instant housing? Not going to happen. Period. You get a House in the Wards, or an Apartment / FC room where you can. Those are your options. Take 'em or leave 'em.

Can they change that so that everyone gets a house? Definitely. Do I want them to fix it so that everyone gets a house? Definitely. Do I think Square Enix will actually make that change? Unlikely.

that seems intellectually dishonest. the people in London deal with a 6ft by 6ft square because there is no other choice at their income level, not because they think its somehow the pinnacle of housing.

[KhudusQestir]

Are you saying the hundreds of thousands of people living in apartments / flats don't have a home? There are people that are content with a 6ft x 6ft square. Often paying beyond-stupid prices for it (you need only look at flats in London / New York as example.) Calling Apartments "not housing" or claiming anyone bringing them (and FC rooms by proxy) to be 'trolls' works very much against your desire.

I said house, not home... what on earth are you going on about?

Can they change that so that everyone gets a house? Definitely. Do I want them to fix it so that everyone gets a house? Definitely. Do I think Square Enix will actually make that change? Unlikely.

I'm sorry you're such a quitter...

[Kenky]

I'm sorry you're such a quitter...

Far from. I've got a house, an FC room and an apartment. I no longer need to jump through hoops. (I imagine you're only going to read this line and ignore the rest, probably come up with some delusional statement that revolves around my opinion / input not being relevant BECAUSE of this fact. If that happens, I will laugh)

That's not a "Quitter" mentality. SE is a business and currently, people grandfathered in brings in.. Probably not a lot in the grand scheme of things, but it is guaranteed every month. People going on the "offensive" and attacking the house hoarders for what they've done (which is play by the rules, more often than not) really only works to SEs favor, as that (potentially) annoys / irritates said hoarders, making them hold onto the houses just to spite you.

And before you make any remarks about the hoarders being spiteful.. Yes. Humans do this. A lot.

(And for the 6ft comment)
I am aware people in London aren't very big fans of the fact they are paying stupid prices for a box. Believe me.. There's a whole lot more wrong than what was stated but the point was more-so that they very much TRY to make that small space work. They try to make it comfortable. (some of them, at least. I know a few that still use a box for a dining table, but I digress)

The point was that they made the small space work as best they can. So if they can do that, why can't people settle for Apartments? That was the connection I was trying to draw. A rather poor one in hindsight, but I can't really change that now, can I?

[KhudusQestir]

Far from. I've got a house, an FC room and an apartment. I no longer need to jump through hoops. (I imagine you're only going to read this line and ignore the rest, probably come up with some delusional statement that revolves around my opinion / input not being relevant BECAUSE of this fact. If that happens, I will laugh)

Damn. Talk about being attacked with assumptions. No, I was gonna be curious what else you had to say. No one said you didn't have a house, FC room or an apartment? Seriously, WHAT are you going on about? Are you trolling? I feel like you're trolling because I have no idea what the point of this is....

That's not a "Quitter" mentality. SE is a business and currently, people grandfathered in brings in.. Probably not a lot in the grand scheme of things, but it is guaranteed every month. People going on the "offensive" and attacking the house hoarders for what they've done (which is play by the rules, more often than not) really only works to SEs favor, as that (potentially) annoys / irritates said hoarders, making them hold onto the houses just to spite you.

I'm just hearing excuses from this so you can feel you're not a quitter when literally all you're saying is 'just give up'. That's LITERALLY being a quitter despite whatever your excuse is. No one is even saying anything about house hoarders here... you're literally bringing that argument yourself. Also, why does it matter to you if I want to try and fight and shout my feelings to SE to try and get not just me but tons of people who don't have a house the instance housing zone, that way more people can be happy and not feel left out due to terrible luck and SE's terrible housing system that's VERY limited.
I'm trying to fight for something not just for myself but for the hundred and hundred of people who are bidding on one house that are not getting a house while we all want one. I'm glad you got a house. Proud of you. But it just makes me question more why you're here?

And before you make any remarks about the hoarders being spiteful.. Yes. Humans do this. A lot.

Again, not my argument. Literally feels like you're just here to argue with nothing to provide.

[Kenky]

Literally feels like you're just here to argue with nothing to provide.

1.I'm not saying "Give Up". If I was, I would have typed that. I am pointing out that your desire for "instant housing" which should be INSTANCED, not INSTANT, is not going to happen, purely because SE makes more money with the system as it currently is. You're failing to see that (or choosing to ignore the fact that SE is a company known for its stubborn nature and its greed) and acting as if anyone pointing it out is trolling or a "quitter". Which is untrue in every aspect. Like I said in my first post on this thread, I would very much prefer people get housing so nobody is left out. But I know that won't happen, because SE is at the wheel. Many people before you have brought this up. Many people before you have spent every ounce of energy trying to fight for it. Many people before you have failed in doing so. To continue to fight for something, in some herculean delusion that it'll change makes you insane.

2. No. You're not "Fighting for hundreds and hundreds of people". You are part of a very vocal minority that demand change because they couldn't get what they want. That's not a bad thing, as the systems in place (especially with Lottery making it even easier to get involved.. Whole can of worms for another thread, methinks) certainly aren't on your side. But anyone / everyone that champions this "instanced housing or riot" argument continue to ignore what answers you've been given. (I know of ONE person that recognizes those answers and thats Jojoya)

When Lottery was introduced, XIV showed that they know there's an issue. They probably also looked into this very forum to see for ideas, or general guideposts. They chose Lottery because thats what people were screaming for. Now that Lottery was added, as per their requests, people hate it. Despite them being the reason it was introduced in the first place. I stand by my previous comments months ago, actively stating that Lottery won't help anyone and, shocker, It didn't. Your desire will not be met, so long as SE holds stubbornly to their "Neighborhood" desire for housing. Constantly calling each other trolls or going at each others throats for differing opinions doesn't help.

And, so long as SE remains that grip on Neighborhoods, your desire for INSTANCED housing is dead in the water. We can't really force SE to change their mind and constantly berating each other is never going to help. They need to fix the supply.. Granted, fixing the supply involves Instanced housing, since even with their upgraded servers and such, there's only so many wards the game can really handle per server before something snaps.

But the fact that "instanced housing" is the answer, it comes with a whole massive list of issues. Such as trying to make Instanced Housing in such a way that the Ward houses keep their appeal. Many people have discussed how ward houses keep said appeal and it differs, varying from "you can visit it in the real game world" to "making instanced housing have reduced crossbreeding". There's no clear consensus as to what people want outside of a house and by golly, they seem to want to do literally anything to get one. It's not so clear cut than people think.

And before any snarky comment about "Ward housing appeal". It's the older system, that SE wants to maintain. You best bet they want to keep the people who already own a house locked into that house. If Instanced housing was deemed "better" then SE loses out. No company would take that deal.