Please give us instant housing

[Kenky]

I'm sorry you're such a quitter...

Far from. I've got a house, an FC room and an apartment. I no longer need to jump through hoops. (I imagine you're only going to read this line and ignore the rest, probably come up with some delusional statement that revolves around my opinion / input not being relevant BECAUSE of this fact. If that happens, I will laugh)

That's not a "Quitter" mentality. SE is a business and currently, people grandfathered in brings in.. Probably not a lot in the grand scheme of things, but it is guaranteed every month. People going on the "offensive" and attacking the house hoarders for what they've done (which is play by the rules, more often than not) really only works to SEs favor, as that (potentially) annoys / irritates said hoarders, making them hold onto the houses just to spite you.

And before you make any remarks about the hoarders being spiteful.. Yes. Humans do this. A lot.

(And for the 6ft comment)
I am aware people in London aren't very big fans of the fact they are paying stupid prices for a box. Believe me.. There's a whole lot more wrong than what was stated but the point was more-so that they very much TRY to make that small space work. They try to make it comfortable. (some of them, at least. I know a few that still use a box for a dining table, but I digress)

The point was that they made the small space work as best they can. So if they can do that, why can't people settle for Apartments? That was the connection I was trying to draw. A rather poor one in hindsight, but I can't really change that now, can I?

[KhudusQestir]

Far from. I've got a house, an FC room and an apartment. I no longer need to jump through hoops. (I imagine you're only going to read this line and ignore the rest, probably come up with some delusional statement that revolves around my opinion / input not being relevant BECAUSE of this fact. If that happens, I will laugh)

Damn. Talk about being attacked with assumptions. No, I was gonna be curious what else you had to say. No one said you didn't have a house, FC room or an apartment? Seriously, WHAT are you going on about? Are you trolling? I feel like you're trolling because I have no idea what the point of this is....

That's not a "Quitter" mentality. SE is a business and currently, people grandfathered in brings in.. Probably not a lot in the grand scheme of things, but it is guaranteed every month. People going on the "offensive" and attacking the house hoarders for what they've done (which is play by the rules, more often than not) really only works to SEs favor, as that (potentially) annoys / irritates said hoarders, making them hold onto the houses just to spite you.

I'm just hearing excuses from this so you can feel you're not a quitter when literally all you're saying is 'just give up'. That's LITERALLY being a quitter despite whatever your excuse is. No one is even saying anything about house hoarders here... you're literally bringing that argument yourself. Also, why does it matter to you if I want to try and fight and shout my feelings to SE to try and get not just me but tons of people who don't have a house the instance housing zone, that way more people can be happy and not feel left out due to terrible luck and SE's terrible housing system that's VERY limited.
I'm trying to fight for something not just for myself but for the hundred and hundred of people who are bidding on one house that are not getting a house while we all want one. I'm glad you got a house. Proud of you. But it just makes me question more why you're here?

And before you make any remarks about the hoarders being spiteful.. Yes. Humans do this. A lot.

Again, not my argument. Literally feels like you're just here to argue with nothing to provide.

[Kenky]

Literally feels like you're just here to argue with nothing to provide.

1.I'm not saying "Give Up". If I was, I would have typed that. I am pointing out that your desire for "instant housing" which should be INSTANCED, not INSTANT, is not going to happen, purely because SE makes more money with the system as it currently is. You're failing to see that (or choosing to ignore the fact that SE is a company known for its stubborn nature and its greed) and acting as if anyone pointing it out is trolling or a "quitter". Which is untrue in every aspect. Like I said in my first post on this thread, I would very much prefer people get housing so nobody is left out. But I know that won't happen, because SE is at the wheel. Many people before you have brought this up. Many people before you have spent every ounce of energy trying to fight for it. Many people before you have failed in doing so. To continue to fight for something, in some herculean delusion that it'll change makes you insane.

2. No. You're not "Fighting for hundreds and hundreds of people". You are part of a very vocal minority that demand change because they couldn't get what they want. That's not a bad thing, as the systems in place (especially with Lottery making it even easier to get involved.. Whole can of worms for another thread, methinks) certainly aren't on your side. But anyone / everyone that champions this "instanced housing or riot" argument continue to ignore what answers you've been given. (I know of ONE person that recognizes those answers and thats Jojoya)

When Lottery was introduced, XIV showed that they know there's an issue. They probably also looked into this very forum to see for ideas, or general guideposts. They chose Lottery because thats what people were screaming for. Now that Lottery was added, as per their requests, people hate it. Despite them being the reason it was introduced in the first place. I stand by my previous comments months ago, actively stating that Lottery won't help anyone and, shocker, It didn't. Your desire will not be met, so long as SE holds stubbornly to their "Neighborhood" desire for housing. Constantly calling each other trolls or going at each others throats for differing opinions doesn't help.

And, so long as SE remains that grip on Neighborhoods, your desire for INSTANCED housing is dead in the water. We can't really force SE to change their mind and constantly berating each other is never going to help. They need to fix the supply.. Granted, fixing the supply involves Instanced housing, since even with their upgraded servers and such, there's only so many wards the game can really handle per server before something snaps.

But the fact that "instanced housing" is the answer, it comes with a whole massive list of issues. Such as trying to make Instanced Housing in such a way that the Ward houses keep their appeal. Many people have discussed how ward houses keep said appeal and it differs, varying from "you can visit it in the real game world" to "making instanced housing have reduced crossbreeding". There's no clear consensus as to what people want outside of a house and by golly, they seem to want to do literally anything to get one. It's not so clear cut than people think.

And before any snarky comment about "Ward housing appeal". It's the older system, that SE wants to maintain. You best bet they want to keep the people who already own a house locked into that house. If Instanced housing was deemed "better" then SE loses out. No company would take that deal.

[KhudusQestir]

1.I'm not saying "Give Up". If I was, I would have typed that.

What you're saying is what I'm attempting is pointless. If what I'm doing is pointless then what would your suggestion be if not to 'give up'?

I am pointing out that your desire for "instant housing" which should be INSTANCED, not INSTANT,

You know, it would be appreciated if you didn't go off my title alone and actually read the first post. Attacking me on my typo isn't going to win your argument either...
I just won't take you seriously since you want to start getting disrespectful with me by treating my small mistake like I'm stupid. Idk how you think I'd be ok with that but no, I'm not.I would say you are more stupid yourself for thinking I need that pointed out. Especially when it's already pointed out in the first post.

It's bad enough you're walking all in this forum being a huge negative nancy and attacking my idea and claiming you're not telling me to give up... I still question why you're in here...

When Lottery was introduced, XIV showed that they know there was an issue. They probably also looked into this very forum to see for ideas, or general guideposts. They chose Lottery because thats what people were screaming for.

Oh, well I guess I'll continue since it seems it worked to make the lottery. We tried it and it's showing how much bigger of an issue it is. We need a new solution instead of "Oh, well since that failed. Let's give up."
Again, if you're not telling me to give up, what is the point of you being in here?

[MultihouseHoarder]

SE is a business and currently, people grandfathered in brings in.. Probably not a lot in the grand scheme of things, but it is guaranteed every month. People going on the "offensive" and attacking the house hoarders for what they've done (which is play by the rules, more often than not) really only works to SEs favor, as that (potentially) annoys / irritates said hoarders, making them hold onto the houses just to spite you.

And before you make any remarks about the hoarders being spiteful.. Yes. Humans do this. A lot.

Truth. I feel so exposed.