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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    Aggro management is a bad and outdated mechanic. it punishes good DPS players because the tank is bad.
    Seems like a good learning opportunity for the tank.
    The game isn't shy about teaching via failures. Why is team effort shunned?
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    Lucretia Ryusagi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Seems like a good learning opportunity for the tank.
    The game isn't shy about teaching via failures. Why is team effort shunned?
    Depending on the aggro mechanic and game design, a dps player could simply outgear the tank so hard, that there is no way for the tank to keep aggro in the first place, that is not good design, nobody want a badly equiped tank because the good dps will constanty pull aggro.
    This might not be the case in FF14, but there are games that work this way.
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    Sqwall Lionheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    Depending on the aggro mechanic and game design, a dps player could simply outgear the tank so hard, that there is no way for the tank to keep aggro in the first place, that is not good design, nobody want a badly equiped tank because the good dps will constanty pull aggro.
    This might not be the case in FF14, but there are games that work this way.
    THIS. Is the exact reason tanking was horrible from ARR to Stormblood. If a tank lost agro it was due to the wildly imbalanced agro system that was there. As a paladin with my relic weapon and shield...I would LOSE agro to a DRG with a CRAFTED weapon.

    Which would force me to provoke, spam rage of halone combo...over...and over....and over...just to keep the agro off the drg that just kept creeping up on lead agro.

    That was the WORST agro system like ever. Which is why WAR from Heavensward to Stormblood was THE top tank for holding agro AND doing amazing damage.

    If you are a main tank...the agro system we have now....is STELLAR compared to what we had. The old system reminds me of old WoW where you literally had to whack your forehead on the keyboard to spam your skills to hold agro. FFFFFFF that.

    Tanking shouldn't be THAT stressful.

    I feel those that want this old system back...haven't really tanked all that much. I'm no stellar tank by any means, but I do understand the system we have now is perfect.

    That being said....I do wish that SE would delve into some game mechanics where mobs might reset the agro table and all hell breaks loose. Then the tank has to scramble to grab it back. That would offer SOME danger in to those DPS that want to manage agro as their HP falls apart like a wet napkin, maybe that would help them appreciate the tank that pulls wall to wall with 18 mobs bashing me in the face.
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