The Problem with Paladin

[Treach]

Or means other way around so other jobs are as good as warrior

I hope so.

Camate didn't really say anything about defense or mitigation for PLD, is there anything on the JP forums about it? Maybe all ability changes are aimed at this?

[Reinheart]

I hope so.

Camate didn't really say anything about defense or mitigation for PLD, is there anything on the JP forums about it? Maybe all ability changes are aimed at this?

Nope JP side is basically same thing as Camate said, nothing about HP increase or Def increase, only thing it says is adjustment to Paladin's actions, guessing 1.21a isn't too far out so we should see it soon I think.

One thing I don't understand is the Q/A team used these new jobs for testing and went through new raid dungeons... so why couldn't they figure this out when they tried out PLD. Like JP side said and what I posted on my thread... it's fine the devs are making adjustments but what were their original plan behind how it was released? There must of been a reason why the jobs released this way after testing process Q/A team went through so instead of just listening to players feedbacks right away and saying we'll fix it! we kind of want to know, why it was released like this in the first place??

[Fayette]

.......One thing I don't understand is the Q/A team used these new jobs for testing and went through new raid dungeons... so why couldn't they figure this out when they tried out PLD. Like JP side said and what I posted on my thread... it's fine the devs are making adjustments but what were their original plan behind how it was released? There must of been a reason why the jobs released this way after testing process Q/A team went through so instead of just listening to players feedbacks right away and saying we'll fix it! we kind of want to know, why it was released like this in the first place??

Perhaps they weren't testing them for the current battles but on the future ones like Garuda or other upcoming dungeons/primals/etc that they will be giving us and PLD will be the choice tank for it. I don't know just a guess ^^ They really need to make GLA/PLD something special over MRD/WAR, they should know by now that players will take the class/job that can tank/big damage over a class/job than tanks/teeny-tiny damage. :/

[Skies]

One thing I don't understand is the Q/A team used these new jobs for testing and went through new raid dungeons... so why couldn't they figure this out when they tried out PLD. Like JP side said and what I posted on my thread... it's fine the devs are making adjustments but what were their original plan behind how it was released? There must of been a reason why the jobs released this way after testing process Q/A team went through so instead of just listening to players feedbacks right away and saying we'll fix it! we kind of want to know, why it was released like this in the first place??

Actually that is the ultimate fallacy of every game designer: Testing their own game. Of course they got a Q/A team, but the Q/A team is not the players, the Q/A team does not have the same expectations of the players, it doesn't have the same mentality of the players. Quite possibly the Q/A team sees the PLD as a better tank than the WAR, perhaps they can even see something in it that the community cannot, all in all they have an altered point of view because of their involvement.

I mean i'm not saying anything about the job itself, I don't play anything other than my Dragoon and the White Mage i'm levelling up, but it's very possible that the official testing teams simply have a strange point of view and for them, somehow, this works.

[YukiKoneko]

Actually that is the ultimate fallacy of every game designer: Testing their own game. Of course they got a Q/A team, but the Q/A team is not the players, the Q/A team does not have the same expectations of the players, it doesn't have the same mentality of the players. Quite possibly the Q/A team sees the PLD as a better tank than the WAR, perhaps they can even see something in it that the community cannot, all in all they have an altered point of view because of their involvement.

I mean i'm not saying anything about the job itself, I don't play anything other than my Dragoon and the White Mage i'm levelling up, but it's very possible that the official testing teams simply have a strange point of view and for them, somehow, this works.

How long have we asked the devs what exactly they were thinking? We have tried to figure out what they Q/A'd PLD to be and no one knows. So, in the end, they messed up, and for the 2nd time now, nerf'd the GLA class tree viability. Fortunately, they do have a good record for "fixing" the GLA class tree the next patch... The rollarcoaster continues