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  1. #21
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    Wanzzo's Avatar
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    Nadia Frostwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    For the exact same price as the 1-character pay-per-month account, any account can have 8 characters per server, each with 2 retainers. There is no price increase. All you have to do is put down 3 months sub at a time.

    For the price of a little effort, you get +200 slots, per character (+1,400 if you use all 7 extra characters), not even counting the +350/character if you unlock retainers, or the +70 or so in the chocobo bag. That is +4,340 slots right there.

    The only hurdle to this is having them in your FC w/ access to the GC chest to transfer stuff.
    That's why some people make their own closed FC: to use the FC chest for storage and to share itens through their chars.
    But, I think this is wrong. Imagine if 50% of the players that invest their time, money and effort inside game to craft make their FC for that... we would have 1 billion "solo FC" xD And this could exclude the newcomer to the game who want to craft. "So, do I need to have more chars just for that?". This is a bit silly and a waste of time.

    If they implement an inventory just for baits/gathered materials this would reduce significantly the necessity of measures like this. Also, this could encourage more people to try gathering/crafting out.

    You don't need to open this "new dedicated inventory" all the time. It's more like for consulting: "how many of those I have in order to make this piece of gear that I want?" Someone that is a crafter even wouldn't need to open such inventory if in their recipe already show how many he got in his dedicated inventory.

    In resume: an inventory to receive your gathered stuff. Nothing else. Those materials will be used for craftings, if you do craftings. Or you can sell them in your rentainers. If you not dedicate yourself to the gathering, so the inventory will never bother you, but it will be there "just in case".

    Not everyone trust their FC compatriots. And not everyone even enter a FC to begin with... '-'

    And, what type of itens could go to this inventory?
    All that is tagged as a recipe material. Simple.
    So, gathered stuff, itens from and for housing, etc etc could go to it.

    This could even facilitate for the player telling him what itens can be or not used in a craft (by looking to which inventory the item goes).
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    Last edited by Wanzzo; 07-08-2022 at 01:41 AM.

  2. #22
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    GOD please a crafting inventory would be amazing. I am leveling ONE crafter right now, and along with dye and items I use daily, I have to do constant clean up just to have the stuff I need. Would really appreciate a separate bag for crafting mats.
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  3. #23
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanzzo View Post
    That's why some people make their own closed FC: to use the FC chest for storage and to share itens through their chars.
    But, I think this is wrong. Imagine if 50% of the players that invest their time, money and effort inside game to craft make their FC for that... we would have 1 billion "solo FC" xD

    If they implement an inventory just for baits/gathered materials this would reduce significantly the necessity of measures like this. Also, this could encourage more people to try gathering/crafting out.

    Not everyone trust their FC compatriots. And not everyone even enter a FC to begin with... '-'
    If you haven't entered an FC at all, there is no reason NOT to make a solo one, even if you eventually leave it on your main character.

    If you don't trust your FC/your FC doesn't trust you to utilize the chest to move stuff for a few minutes, you might not be in the right FC for you.

    It's not ideal, and that's a fair point, but it still stands as an option most people don't want to put the effort into doing.
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  4. #24
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    Alys Isshu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    a problem with that is, not everyone fishes. some people fish just to level it up then never fish again. so this extra bait storage does nothing at all for them.
    Not everybody is a glamour hound so why should Square add more plates and expand the dresser?
    Not everybody plays all jobs so why should Square increase the armoury?
    Not everybody plays EX, Savage, Ultimates. Not everybody PVPs. Not everybody crafts. Not everybody can get a house. Not everybody can get an apartment...

    So why is Square wasting time on developing content and systems for things not everybody takes part in?

    Should Square not fix the ridiculous limitations they put on Hrothgar? It's one of the least played races so why should they waste the effort? The first thing you need to ask is why isn't it as popular and I'd bet that those limitations rank high on the list.

    The one truism in MMO's is that everybody likes different things. The one majority is that players play a mix of content. Focusing development on one type of content is a fool's errand (see SW:TOR). Same thing goes for QoL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    while "special" bait storage would be nice, the bigger picture is that if it doesnt benefit everyone, it is unlikely to be implemented.
    The only feature (QoL or otherwise) guaranteed to not be implemented is the one that nobody asks for.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    If you haven't entered an FC at all, there is no reason NOT to make a solo one, even if you eventually leave it on your main character.

    If you don't trust your FC/your FC doesn't trust you to utilize the chest to move stuff for a few minutes, you might not be in the right FC for you.

    It's not ideal, and that's a fair point, but it still stands as an option most people don't want to put the effort into doing.
    yep, it's an option.

    But the point is: to find a solution, not a band-aid, see?

    I really think this dedicated inventory system might be a really nice solution, 'cause this will make more space even if someone who is not into gathering/crafting. Also, if we think in longevity of the game, we will receive a lot more new itens as each expansion comes, so, instead of making more spaces in the actual inventories, we could have a separated one for all crafting/gathered matts.

    Oh, and about baits, they could reduce the type for each fishing method and make them as skills that we get as we level up. Not a consumable-like thing...
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    Last edited by Wanzzo; 07-08-2022 at 03:44 AM.
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeminiReed View Post
    Not everybody is a glamour hound so why should Square add more plates and expand the dresser?
    Not everybody plays all jobs so why should Square increase the armoury?
    Not everybody plays EX, Savage, Ultimates. Not everybody PVPs. Not everybody crafts. Not everybody can get a house. Not everybody can get an apartment...

    So why is Square wasting time on developing content and systems for things not everybody takes part in?

    Should Square not fix the ridiculous limitations they put on Hrothgar? It's one of the least played races so why should they waste the effort? The first thing you need to ask is why isn't it as popular and I'd bet that those limitations rank high on the list.

    The one truism in MMO's is that everybody likes different things. The one majority is that players play a mix of content. Focusing development on one type of content is a fool's errand (see SW:TOR). Same thing goes for QoL.


    The only feature (QoL or otherwise) guaranteed to not be implemented is the one that nobody asks for.
    These are all poor arguments. Nobody ever needs such a wide variety of fish at any given time. This is absolutely a personal problem if there's too much bait taking up space.

    If you really feel like you need more inventory space, it's possible to expand the chocobo bag for a small monthly fee. With that in place, I don't see them expanding any further, especially at no charge.
    One can go nuts on retainers because that storage they're not directly tied to your character. They're a separate entity tied to your home world.
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    Last edited by Deveryn; 07-08-2022 at 02:43 AM.

  7. #27
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanzzo View Post
    Well, I agree that today is better than before.
    But I really think we should have a dedicated inventory for baits and/or gathered materials. The variety of stuff we get amplified enormously at each new feature (like ocean fishing, for example) and the inventory still the same all this time...

    I'm not saying we wont need to manage inventory spaces. This is a necessity in almost any game. And, despite we can do that more smoothly nowadays, i think it doesn't hurt to have a dedicated inventory for baits or for gathered stuff... and i don't think it's that hard or painful for the devs to implement.

    Also, if they do it, the necessity for more inventory spaces after some new expansions could be lifted a bit, helping them...
    Saddle bags were basically the answer for a bait box. SE just didn't make it exclusive to bait, and players fill it up with whatever. Inventory congestion was immensely alleviated when stack size was increased from x99 to x999. And a lot of currencies have been placed into separate inventories. This is just asking for more of what has already been given, so again I will say that players need to figure out how to properly manage their items. Its just part of mmo life to do so. There are now so many items in the game. You need to also keep in mind that the more stuff you have, the more you'll need to manage. Things will never be unlimited so why put yourself through that, unless you enjoy it?
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  8. #28
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    I would like to see a increase in retainer inventory size if anything, 175 to 200 instead maybe. Especially if you pay for additional retainers, like it's been a decade, we're due a little increase at least.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    I would like to see a increase in retainer inventory size if anything, 175 to 200 instead maybe. Especially if you pay for additional retainers, like it's been a decade, we're due a little increase at least.
    We're not due anything. If they do that, it changes the service offered and potentially the price. It's entirely possible to enjoy the game without additional retainers.

    inb4 glam needs etc.... I refer you to the previous sentence.
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  10. #30
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    just saiyan island will have there own inventory systems. Should be hard for them to add one for normal use
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

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