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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    If you thank all of these random people, you're a tool

    If I was mopping the damn floor and some random person thanked me... It would feel condescending... I'd be offended and want to punch you

    You: "Thank you for cleaning the shit off of this toilet, you provide a valuable service"
    Me as a janitor: "Thank you for shutting the hell up"

    when did the world become so pretentious and douchey?
    Cool stuff. You're actually the asshole they talk about when they get home. Some of us have had to work hard from top-to-bottom and can appreciate the experiences we've had. I'm actually going to hope that you never have to experience this - instead, maybe your children and spouse. Maybe your parents can end up in an assisted living facility and the unappreciated nurses can do a horrible job, increasing their pain and suffering. It seems like the idea of common courtesy and compassion is lost on you so here's to hoping you can learn these lessons by watching the people you care about suffer. After all - this is the kind of world you want ^^ /cheers!

    P.S. - Sweet Chael Sonnen impression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    Cool stuff. You're actually the asshole they talk about when they get home. Some of us have had to work hard from top-to-bottom and can appreciate the experiences we've had. I'm actually going to hope that you never have to experience this - instead, maybe your children and spouse. Maybe your parents can end up in an assisted living facility and the unappreciated nurses can do a horrible job, increasing their pain and suffering. It seems like the idea of common courtesy and compassion is lost on you so here's to hoping you can learn these lessons by watching the people you care about suffer. After all - this is the kind of world you want ^^ /cheers!

    P.S. - Sweet Chael Sonnen impression.
    Pearls before Swine, my friend. So sad but true.

    To the ass**** who thinks paying = thanking, let me ask you this: have you ever tipped a waiter or waitress at a restaurant or barista at a coffeeshop? Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    Cool stuff. You're actually the asshole they talk about when they get home. Some of us have had to work hard from top-to-bottom and can appreciate the experiences we've had. I'm actually going to hope that you never have to experience this - instead, maybe your children and spouse. Maybe your parents can end up in an assisted living facility and the unappreciated nurses can do a horrible job, increasing their pain and suffering. It seems like the idea of common courtesy and compassion is lost on you so here's to hoping you can learn these lessons by watching the people you care about suffer. After all - this is the kind of world you want ^^ /cheers!

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    no that person they talk about would be you. we both know he's right. it's polite to say thank you to your waitress for a good service. it will be taken rude to say the same thing to the janitor. it may not be meant that way, but that's exactly how it would be taken.

    you would be the guy the janitor gets home and tells his wife he got fired because he beat someone half to death with his mop because they were trying to be funny and mock his job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    no that person they talk about would be you. we both know he's right. it's polite to say thank you to your waitress for a good service. it will be taken rude to say the same thing to the janitor. it may not be meant that way, but that's exactly how it would be taken.

    you would be the guy the janitor gets home and tells his wife he got fired because he beat someone half to death with his mop because they were trying to be funny and mock his job.
    This is so horribly wrong. Where do you lenr this crap? I thank my janitor and SHE thanks me back for acknowledging her and making her life that much easier. Go learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    This is so horribly wrong. Where do you lenr this crap? I thank my janitor and SHE thanks me back for acknowledging her and making her life that much easier. Go learn.
    no, you go learn. go to somewhere you don't work and don't know your janitor. go find some random guy that just got finished cleaning out the toilet and tell him he did a good job cleaning it. it's not meant to be rude at all, but if you don't know him and he doesn't know you it will be taken rude more often than not.

    the best way to tell a waitress she did a good job is by giving her your money in a good tip. the best way to tell game developers they did a good job is to give your money to them in buying the game and monthly subs.

    i do construction for a living. we get told all the time we do a good job, but do you know the first thing that usually gets said afterwards? "the best thing to do to show me thanks is helping my pocketbook"
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    no, you go learn. go to somewhere you don't work and don't know your janitor. go find some random guy that just got finished cleaning out the toilet and tell him he did a good job cleaning it. it's not meant to be rude at all, but if you don't know him and he doesn't know you it will be taken rude more often than not.

    the best way to tell a waitress she did a good job is by giving her your money in a good tip. the best way to tell game developers they did a good job is to give your money to them in buying the game and monthly subs.

    i do construction for a living. we get told all the time we do a good job, but do you know the first thing that usually gets said afterwards? "the best thing to do to show me thanks is helping my pocketbook"
    Why should you treat the waitress any different than a game developer? Why does a waitress deserve an hourly wage + tip but a game developer only an hourly wage? I know some waiters and waitresses that earn a better living than game developers.

    What about the bellboy at the counter who just carried in your luggage? Why does he deserve a tip ontop of his hourly wage? Doesn't he get paid by the hotel owner to do that? Afterall it is his job, so why should you bother tipping him or even looking at him?

    Your lame argument about the janitor who hates his life and his job so much that he would punch someone in the face for thanking them is just that: a stupid stereotype. It's like the guy who told his wife on the night they go out to dinner "you look great tonight" and she responds angrily "are you saying i don't look great otherwise?".

    You attempt to make it seem that Janitors naturally loath their jobs and hate anyone and everyone who dares compliment them, but I doubt you have known a fraction of the janitors in the world yet you are content making gross generalizations on their behalf.

    And so what if you work in construction? Are you attempting to be witty with your comment about helping out your pocketbook? I get it, you need money to live, but who doesn't? Every one in this god forsaken world needs money just as much as you do, but that doesn't give you the right to reject someones verbal acknowledgement of you.

    Maybe next time your wife or girlfriend thanks you for doing something you should tell her that she could thank you by doing it herself next time, and see how far that gets you in life, JOE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    Why should you treat the waitress any different than a game developer? Why does a waitress deserve an hourly wage + tip but a game developer only an hourly wage? I know some waiters and waitresses that earn a better living than game developers.

    What about the bellboy at the counter who just carried in your luggage? Why does he deserve a top ontop of his hourly wage? Doesn't he get paid by the hotel owner to do that? Afterall it is his job, so why should you bother tipping him or even looking at him?

    Your lame argument about the janitor who hates his life and his job so much that he would punch someone in the face for thanking them is just that: a stupid stereotype. It's like the guy who told his wife on the night they go out to dinner "you look great tonight" and she responds angrily "are you saying i don't look great otherwise?".

    You attempt to make it seem that Janitors naturally loath their jobs and hate anyone and everyone who dares compliment them, but I doubt you have known a fraction of the janitors in the world yet you are content making gross generalizations on their behalf.

    And so what if you work in construction? Are you attempting to be witty with your comment about helping out your pocketbook? I get it, you need money to live, but who doesn't? Every one in this god forsaken world needs money just as much as you do, but that doesn't give you the right to reject someones verbal acknowledgement of you.

    Maybe next time your wife or girlfriend thanks you for doing something you should tell her that she could thank you by doing it herself next time, and see how far that gets you in life, JOE.
    Because their minimum wage (at least in u.s.) is less. The government expects citizens to tip and calculates that into determining waitress's min wage.

    were i live its 7.25 and waitress get 2.83 an hour


    Have any of you heard of the tradition of leaving a Case of beer out for the trash collectors on Christmas day/eve?
    that's so they take the big stuff they shouldn't or take bags not in trash cans and stuff like that. If you are not giving the trash men stuff you shouldn't then theres no reason to give them anything. When you put out a can with 200 pounds of bricks in it they can take it or leave it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    Because their minimum wage (at least in u.s.) is less. The government expects citizens to tip and calculates that into determining waitress's min wage.

    were i live its 7.25 and waitress get 2.83 an hour
    Here in Paris France, waiters and waitresses can make 3,000 Euro a month full time 35hrs/week and that's WITHOUT tips.
    That's almost 4 thousand dollars.

    I'm also American so I know how it works in the states, and I am sorry to say that the mass consumption mentality of the united states has led to dumbed down stereotypes used by darkstarpoet.

    Tell me this: why are the janitors and waitresses in America treeated so badly as compared to here in France? Why would you imagine a janitor in america hating his life so much tot he point of getting angry for being thanked, yet the janitors here in France smile, talk, and even sit down to drink a coffee with you?

    Think about this. This is a HUGE cultural difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    Because their minimum wage (at least in u.s.) is less. The government expects citizens to tip and calculates that into determining waitress's min wage.

    were i live its 7.25 and waitress get 2.83 an hour
    this is my point. both are depending on the customers to pay their salary. if you don't pay a tip to the waitress she gets crap for a check. if you don't buy the game and pay the sub the developer doesn't have a job. the best way to thank both groups is with your wallet. if your waitress never brings you silverware nor comes to get your drinks you won't tip and have negative things to say. if your developer does a bad job more people leave negative responses and it hurts their bottom line.

    the bottom line is your money is plenty of thanks for both because that is what they depend on to earn their living.
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