Rewritten MSQ - Garlemald and EW

[IkaraGreydancer]

Possibly people speak out against the quality of Endwalker's story because there are a lot of concrete things to point to in its structure and use of plot devices like time travel and memory wipes instead of relying on strong characterization. I imagine the poster you responded to was also frustrated because the FFXIV community has on numerous occasions treated players badly or insinuated things about their character for liking the antagonist factions.

G'raha Tia is quite literally a character who regressed in terms of his writing quality and by the end of Endwalker was robbed of all agency. He is a comfort character with off-putting qualities that no longer contributes to the narrative in meaningful ways. I don't care if people want to make fanart of him baking cupcakes with the WoL. Just don't waste my time with that nonsense in the MSQ.

No other character is forced onto the WoL like this in the story. I imagine if they did something like this with ARR Thancred that sectors of the community would deem it "problematic" yet the red-headed catboy gets a free pass it seems.

You "imagine" folks would have an issue if Thancred was the same in ARR...based on what exactly? Your own biased views? They hold no weight when speaking about others as thats purely about you n your wants tbf.

You can't exactly have played EW and then turn around and claim he doesn't contribute to the narrative...thats objectively false. He isn't the main character like he was in ShB but that doesn't mean he now contributes nothing. He finally gets to be himself without the burden of a world on his hands. The "exarch" isn't absent by any means though as shown in Radz. And when shit goes down he doesn't play around as seen in Garl. He just doesnt have to be in that mode at all times now. I wouldn't call that a regression at all. And let's not pretend Graha hasn't always been a fanboy. The story let's you know this numerous times prior to EW. If its a waste of your time there's a skip feature for a reason.

Also..."red headed catboy", really? This just comes off like hater speak

[aveyond-dreams]

Fanboy characters who are mostly used as overt fanservice are detrimental to the narrative and I am extremely unlikely to be swayed from that position. The few moments of heroics he was afforded in Endwalker do not erase all the other times when he was reduced to what I would describe as a ridiculous spectacle.

That is the image of him that stuck. A sparkly eyed burger eating catboy who has to tell me how much he loves me every 5 minutes.

[Knot_D]

Fanboy characters who are mostly used as overt fanservice are detrimental to the narrative and I am extremely unlikely to be swayed from that position. The few moments of heroics he was afforded in Endwalker do not erase all the other times when he was reduced to what I would describe as a ridiculous spectacle.

That is the image of him that stuck. A sparkly eyed burger eating catboy who has to tell me how much he loves me every 5 minutes.

Because that's how cool we are? Saving the world and the shard, defeating primals, and other heroic stuff. For sure I'll go fanboy over my WoL if I see him with my own eyes

[IkaraGreydancer]

Fanboy characters who are mostly used as overt fanservice are detrimental to the narrative and I am extremely unlikely to be swayed from that position. The few moments of heroics he was afforded in Endwalker do not erase all the other times when he was reduced to what I would describe as a ridiculous spectacle.

That is the image of him that stuck. A sparkly eyed burger eating catboy who has to tell me how much he loves me every 5 minutes.

Then all I can say is I'm glad I don't share your outlook. It has allowed me to enjoy far more than you do about EW clearly. The story isn't reducing his character you are. But ofc you'll never see it that way and would rather point fingers at the writers (who aren't perfect before you claim thats what I'm saying). And also before you possibly claim it Graha isn't my favorite character or anything, that's tied between Thancred and Hilda lol

[LandonIXIII]

Wow, Just wow.........and I thought the Zodiark Trance comic was edgy afk but this takes it to whole another level.