6.2 SAM; Optimism

[Ruminous]

Don't really need to be a Monk expert to recognize the shallow and boring nature of most of the current melees and tanks, including Monk. I'm less inclined to be skeptical about someone's suggestions based on what they've played and more on whether they think something like Summoner is well designed.

Hey, summoner is well designed... If you're in need of a sleep aid.

[butchersblock]

Hey, summoner is well designed... If you're in need of a sleep aid.

Tbh the only reason I brought up Summoner is because I recall the person I was replying to mentioning it was well designed. I just found it funny since they tried to discredit my view on the Monk rework based on a false assumption that I haven't leveled the job.

[Ransu]

Tbh the only reason I brought up Summoner is because I recall the person I was replying to mentioning it was well designed. I just found it funny since they tried to discredit my view on the Monk rework based on a false assumption that I haven't leveled the job.

Honestly, the premise of both smn and mnk redesigns are really good. The problem is they were executed poorly leaving a pretty dry gameplay for both of them.

[butchersblock]

Honestly, the premise of both smn and mnk redesigns are really good. The problem is they were executed poorly leaving a pretty dry gameplay for both of them.

Definitely. Seeing how popular SMN is means they got certain things right with the job, likely aesthetically which is also a very valid part about job design (one of the main things turning me away from Monk). I just wish the gameplay wasn't so poorly executed