1 House 1 FC per DC Only

[Eraden]

We're not asking for a completely new system to replace all the housing that currently exists.

We're asking SE to improve the existing one (apartments) so that it will provide the features and options we see in the other games that are missing here. A good instanced system (especially since there's no need for demolition in such a system) will lower demand for the ward houses. That frees up more of those for the players that truly enjoy the ward experience and/or would be active gardeners.

Agreed. There is no need to blow up the old just to bring in the new. A more robust housing system might be one in which wards are retained while additional housing is introduced in some other fashion.

[Themarvin]

Agreed. There is no need to blow up the old just to bring in the new. A more robust housing system might be one in which wards are retained while additional housing is introduced in some other fashion.

As long as it is with max 1 house and 1 FC per DC per account, then it is all fine..

And that by lifting the current grandfathering as well, making it even and fair for all in the competetion to get a house or FC house, as it is a huge problem, people think it is ok to exploit current systems and to be protected by previous systems as well, and if these people end quitting over a decission like this that will be enforced by ToS, then just don't sign the additional ToS addition given and don't play the game.

Of course will be given a choice of which, one want to keep, also this would even the ground out quite a bit, it is a trend that people make alts on other servers with the purpose of buying up houses.

[LaylaTsarra]

And that by lifting the current grandfathering as well.

Still pushing this line aren't you. It's not going to happen and you need to get over it. Your continued push to retroactively enforce new rules won't happen and if they took your suggestion and limited it to one house and FC per DC they'd be grandfathering in those who have houses on multiple servers in the same DC.

If someone has a house on Chaos and one on Light they will not remove one of those houses from the person who owns them given at the time they purchased them they were allowed to. They would enforce the new rules on new purchases only which is a reasonable thing to expect. Interestingly enough with the new rules for 6.1 they are still allowing the purchasing of one FC and one private per server so you have an uphill battle to get them to listen to you.

[Themarvin]

Still pushing this line aren't you. It's not going to happen and you need to get over it. Your continued push to retroactively enforce new rules won't happen and if they took your suggestion and limited it to one house and FC per DC they'd be grandfathering in those who have houses on multiple servers in the same DC.

If someone has a house on Chaos and one on Light they will not remove one of those houses from the person who owns them given at the time they purchased them they were allowed to. They would enforce the new rules on new purchases only which is a reasonable thing to expect. Interestingly enough with the new rules for 6.1 they are still allowing the purchasing of one FC and one private per server so you have an uphill battle to get them to listen to you.

In short any other MMO would enforce things, that plugs a problem like this, popular one or not... what I suggest would not reflect if you got one on chaos and light, as 2 DC's, it wont be an unpopular thing to remove grandfathering of the past and coming to be, but the right thing, of course compensation of the value of the plots that you dont want to keep would be in place.

Fairplay and equal ground to all is something that 99,99% of the active playerbase would agree to.

[LaylaTsarra]

Fairplay

In short you don't have a clue what that means. The Director and dev team do however.

[Themarvin]

In short you don't have a clue what that means. The Director and dev team do however.

Fairplay to all to be on common ground, the Director should take a stance against grandfathering, and get over it, there is no way you can justify 3-4-5-6-30 houses on one paid account, and is not fairplay to all other who may only get within limitations now and too come.

It may sound silly in your ears, and not fair, if you fall outside the suggestion range, but not in those 1000s of players who is looking for a roof over their head other than an apartment or FC room it does not.

[Shibi]

there is no way you can justify 3-4-5-6-30 houses on one paid account

1000s of players who is looking for a roof over their head other than an apartment or FC room

Will punishing people for playing inside the rules really do much when there are "1000s of players...looking for a roof"?

Better to push SE to deal with the real problem, rather than just bandaiding over the real problem more hoping to hide it from view for another 18 days (2 cycles).

[Ayan_Calvesse]

Fairplay to all to be on common ground, the Director should take a stance against grandfathering, and get over it, there is no way you can justify 3-4-5-6-30 houses on one paid account, and is not fairplay to all other who may only get within limitations now and too come.

It may sound silly in your ears, and not fair, if you fall outside the suggestion range, but not in those 1000s of players who is looking for a roof over their head other than an apartment or FC room it does not.

What if I run 8 FC's with players in them other then myself?

[LaylaTsarra]

Fairplay to all to be on common ground, the Director should take a stance against grandfathering

He already has. Get a clue. It's not going to happen. I'll tell you what you can continue to post your personal view of trying to hurt those who did nothing but follow the rules but I suggest you come back when you see it in the patch notes. Don't hold your breath.

In the meantime those of us who love housing will continue to follow the rules as they are announced. I'm confident that any new rules will never be retroactively applied.

+ I would like to see more "wards" added in the other zones...like the Ruby sea or Mhor Drona or Iddlyshire; basically any of the non-capital zones should have 1-2 wards; this would expand the ward idea of a

I suspect we'll see new housing districts as time goes by but until then I seriously hope there are plans for some major ward additions with the receipt of new servers. I was particularly surprised to only see Ishgard announced with 24 wards with no new ones in any of the previous districts. I would have thought the wards would have been expanded to 30 but I'm of the view that did not happen because of the lack of new server resources due to the pandemic.

Adding wards and districts will not solve the problem however in my view unless something is done with instanced housing the easiest of which would be to drastically improve apartments to include small, medium and large with different layouts. Airships and subs need to go to GC and a means to make gardening available for all would help with the demand for ward housing given many want a FC house or personal house simply to get access to that content.

One has to hope that with the advent of real numbers due to the lottery submissions the Director and those with control of the purse strings will actually start to address the issue of meeting demand.

[Ayan_Calvesse]

Disagree,

No one likes to be punished for following the rules - if you change the rules at a later date you are choosing to punish people if you retroactively enforce rules.