Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[LinaAkayomi]

I know the devs currently have a lot on their plate, and they're working super hard to keep on providing an amazing experience.
But I'm honestly a bit disheartened about the lack of information or hype regarding female hrothgars.
They saw first-hand the level of HYPE male Viera brought. Even if female hrothgars come out for 7.0, or hell, 8.0, I'd at least like to know SOMETHING, you know?
Even if it's bad news. Just something to temper and tame my expectations, something that's not as vague as things are. "Sometime in the future" is just too vague. If they can't make it for 7.0 or sooner, that is totally OK. I just want them to be more open about it, so we can temper our expectations in advance.

And, if by any chance, they're currently working on them... maybe an early concept art? Something? So we can manage our expectations.

[Midareyukki]

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It's far more than that, and it frankly shows just how little people have been paying attention to what any Hrothgar player has been saying the past two months.

The plot goeth thusly:
- The dev team made Hrothgar and Viera simultaneously, leading to the overall crappy state the two are in
- Neither Hrothgar nor Viera had much in terms of fixing or addressing, Hrothgar overall even less so as they actually would outright leave out Hrothgar whenever addressing the situation.
- Since then, not many head gears were tweaked to fit Hrothgar, and less so for Viera
- During all this time, a large vocal amount of people begged the development team for Male Viera, to the point where they'd spam entire rows of their comment sections in PLLs.
- Male Viera came, a lot of people were happy, but a lot of people weren't because they didn't solve baseline Viera issues. And now they had to deal with a 2nd version with the same problems. Truly a victory for the forces of justice!
- Hrothgar players noticed the writing on the wall and became aware of what asking for Female Hrothgar meant
In comes 6.1
- Hrothgar updates for hairstyles were promised for 6.1
- Fans waited during PLLs for designs, but the designs were only unveiled at the last one on April 1st
- ...which was a total mess. The playerbase memed the results and Hrothgar players lamented how poorly their race was handled: they chose the worst hairstyles for a leonine face, and due to technical issues, they cut out our ears. All while giggling in the LL.
- Yoshida is shocked that Hrothgar players reacted negatively. His overall answer amounts to "it's hard", with a community representative repeating the statement. A shock that shouldn't have happened.
- Players then examined what happened to their race and discovered far more than the statement let on.
- Players have since expressed their support for Hrothgars to be taken seriously, and for the development team to not only organize their priorities, but also give a better justification than simply "it's hard".

Because even if it's hard, no attempts were made to address the problem, and the more they keep releasing low-effort stuff like this on the grounds that "it's hard", then the worse it will be in the long run to fix the situation altogether.

At the moment, it's thought that adding Female Hrothgar will only double the problem. Like Viera, but worse. A lot of people want Female Hrothgar, there IS a demand for it. But after the 6.1 reception, a lot of players don't want a monkey's paw situation.
It's fine to want it, don't get me wrong. I'd like to have it too. But there is a new context to asking for it, and it's not pretty. So "sometime in the future" and "lack of info" is understandable after how 6.1 went. Why ask for designs for femgars atm when they'll give them ears then, but remove them in-game?

You have threads on this (1, 2 and 3) and femgars are mentioned throughout.

[Pip_Chick]

To be honest, I am just waiting on the 7.0 info at this point. They might come then (since it's a new expansion and that is when they add new races), I am one of the people that can't wait to play as them, but I would rather them take their sweet time to add them, but only if that means they will do them right!
I have a lot of hopes for 7.0 (maybe more than I should), but with the graphical update to the world and characters. I can hope that this will give them the perfect excuse to solve some of the character creators and the assets for the Viera and Hrothgars.
I am hoping they will get some more people as designers for both the code "untangle" and then assets adjustments.
Until then I just hope they will make an amazing model for Female Hrothgar as they did for Male Viera (appearance-wise) and we all will be able to enjoy them!

[Bergfinn]

To be honest, I am just waiting on the 7.0 info at this point. They might come then (since it's a new expansion and that is when they add new races), I am one of the people that can't wait to play as them, but I would rather them take their sweet time to add them, but only if that means they will do them right!
I have a lot of hopes for 7.0 (maybe more than I should), but with the graphical update to the world and characters. I can hope that this will give them the perfect excuse to solve some of the character creators and the assets for the Viera and Hrothgars.
I am hoping they will get some more people as designers for both the code "untangle" and then assets adjustments.
Until then I just hope they will make an amazing model for Female Hrothgar as they did for Male Viera (appearance-wise) and we all will be able to enjoy them!

tbh at this point I fear they'll get worgen and goblins treatment like when WoW did the playable races model revamp: leaving them for last, way after all other races got theirs aside pandaren, due being the "newest" ones.

[Adamantini]

(...)At the moment, it's thought that adding Female Hrothgar will only double the problem. Like Viera, but worse. A lot of people want Female Hrothgar, there IS a demand for it. But after the 6.1 reception, a lot of players don't want a monkey's paw situation. (...)

As much as it is true, this is just a reflection of how relaxed SE is, while there are players who simply defend everything the company does, and it won't actually be a problem due to the lack of structure of the company itself.

As we can see from twitter, 1 person alone can make all headgears work in both races, 1 person can make paws in both races (which they have in other games in the franchise), 1 person can put ears on all miqo'te's helmets, 1 person can adapt any hair (decently) for hrothgars and vieras (this is taking into account 2 years).

The company is saving efforts. With 2 professionals working on it in 3 years, we would have the helmets adapted, along with the hair. The male viera and the female hrothgar are not the company's problem, the problem is that SE no longer cares about doing its best.

[SkyCake]

I want big, muscle kitties so badly. There's not a crying emoji, but imagine one in this message.

I also fear that the amazing fanart in this thread has risen my expectations higher than SE can actually deliver. Thanks to those sharing them! They're my favorite part about this thread.

[MonsutaMan]

Bumping support for this, but going off the rails a bit....

One thing that bothers me in XI and XIV, is what makes it unique compared to other mmo.....But also completely nullifies the need to play as other races.....

One character, can play every class......

While I want probably want more races more than anyone, when we do get it I am like..."Okay, so now what?" lol...

"Oh, so I gotta play every class all other again to be a bunny man or lion lady?"

I know this was said before, but still.....class locking is frowned upon, but it low-key serves a purpose.

[Alacran]

The fact that there has been zero concept art or any inkling of what they will look like, after all this time, is extremely concerning. I remain convinced they are in development hell.

But there has been.

[ronibosch]

After seeing how SE has treated Viera, Hrothgar, and now even Miqo'te (a lot of the latest headgear removing their ears if they are covered), I'm not holding much hope for FHrothgar. At this point, what I want the most from Yoshi P and the devs is an update on the current situation and/or future plans for both limited races.

[Pip_Chick]

Solve what problems? If players don't want miqo'te 2.0, their unique feature will be their custom heads. No hats is a worthy sacrifice for that.

1. People don't want a Miquo'te 2.0. They want a well-designed female counterpart for male Hrothgar. If you want a Mithra, why not play FF11 and leave the people who want a beast race to have one?
2. There aren't only 2 options, the devs could definitely adjust the headgear to fit all races. It would just take some time and effort.
3. You might not want or don't like the idea of F. Hrothgar, but that is not a reason to be rude.