Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
This is something you see a lot around here.
A lot of what? Intelligent discussion? I know you're not used to it, but it's there.

Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
I feel like there's just people who aren't really comfortable with the fact that the game put forward a situation with no easy answer; both sides of the conflict had to accept some troubling choices,
Game's Characters: "Hydaelyn is such an amazing person!"
Player: "Uh, I don't know... I think she might be-"
Game's Characters: "Hydaelyn is such an amazing person!"
Player: "Whoa, shouldn't I be able to make my own choice on that?"
Cleritic: "Accept troubling choices harder! FORGE AHEAD!!!!"

Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
and if you think one side was in the right, you should have to acknowledge the darker elements of that decision.
I've seen some of your YouTube videos and considering how hard you go on the Ascians, I don't think you should be acting as if you're the champion of fairness.

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And I think what you see from a lot of people around these forums is the approach of, rather than accepting the complexity of the situation and what your beliefs on it might say about you, to instead simplify it so that the choice that person landed on is now in some way objectively right.
Nah, we understand it fine. That's how we know that sundering an entire planet is literally textbook genocide. And seeing as you're supporting that decsion, does that make you a genocide supporter? Shame on you Cleretic! I expected better from such an intellectual titan as yourself!

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That's why you see people painting Venat as a villain, or saying that her plan was bad despite all evidence to the contrary,
That's cause she did villainous actions that anyone could recognize as such unless they were equally psychopathic... Is there something you wanna tell us?

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sometimes to the point of writing fanfiction
You say that like you know that for a fact. Are you reading my Oatmeal x Emet x Hythlodaeus fanfiction?

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Essentially, rejecting the conditions of the question to instead paint it as a binary 'good' or 'evil'.
And the canon story doesn't? And you don't by calling Emet a facist? I've seen the videos. I've seen that filth O_O

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Venat is neither a hero nor villain; she's just a woman forced to make difficult choices.
Ayy you got it right! A shame the actual story didn't

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But to people who don't want to question the morality of their own views on those choices, they simplify her as a villain.
You simplify Emet to be a fascist. How are you gonna tell us that we're wrong for finding Venat to be morally evil? What? The story gaslit you into believing that Venat is great and now you can't accept you got conned?

10/10 take would read again