"I don't want to think while I play, so no one should be allowed to."

[DPZ2]

Do you regularly post nonsensical drivel like this?

When someone, such as yourself, calls out a healer's DPS action as a "DPS loss", I certainly reply to that nonsensical drivel.

For your information, Toxicon doesn't become a DPS "loss" during an AoE, by my calculation, until you reach 15 enemy targets. So, yea, your DPS "loss" was drivel.

Toxicon: 300 for first and 150 for others: 14 * 150 + 300 = 2400 potency.
Dyskrasia: 160 for each: 15 * 160 = 2400 potency.

Plus, Toxicon has a 25 yalm range, while Dyskrasia has a 0 yalm range.

[Ivtrix]

When someone, such as yourself, calls out a healer's DPS action as a "DPS loss", I certainly reply to that nonsensical drivel.

For your information, Toxicon doesn't become a DPS "loss" during an AoE, by my calculation, until you reach 15 enemy targets. So, yea, your DPS "loss" was drivel.

whens the last time a savage raid or an ultimate had 15 target part to it? balance of content underneath those is virtually nonwithstanding, unless your going to do something exceptionally silly like spam toxicon during a dungeon boss

[Nizzi]

When someone, such as yourself, calls out a healer's DPS action as a "DPS loss", I certainly reply to that nonsensical drivel.

For your information, Toxicon doesn't become a DPS "loss" during an AoE, by my calculation, until you reach 15 enemy targets. So, yea, your DPS "loss" was drivel.

Oh cool, that's awesome, except I clearly said Dosis in my post and mentioned DPS optimization and disconnects, so one would assume if you actually read my post instead of immediately jumping to try and "own" me you would've understood that it was about single target encounters and not dungeons because I said nothing about Dyskrasia and because nobody discusses "optimal DPS" for dungeon encounters.

[Silver-Strider]

When someone, such as yourself, calls out a healer's DPS action as a "DPS loss", I certainly reply to that nonsensical drivel.

For your information, Toxicon doesn't become a DPS "loss" during an AoE, by my calculation, until you reach 15 enemy targets. So, yea, your DPS "loss" was drivel.

AoE situations are irrelevant outside of Dungeons for the most part and don't break away from the monotony of spamming 1 button for the majority of content. SGE doesn't break away from 1 button spam more than any other healer since Toxicon and Phlegma both have limitations on how often you can actually use them, which is no different to how often a SCH can hit Energy Drain or a WHM can hit Misery.

[DPZ2]

Oh cool, that's awesome, except I clearly said Dosis in my post and mentioned DPS optimization and disconnects, so one would assume if you actually read my post instead of immediately jumping to try and "own" me you would've understood that it was about single target encounters and not dungeons because I said nothing about Dyskrasia and because nobody discusses "optimal DPS" for dungeon encounters.

"You mean Toxicon, which is a DPS loss or DPS neutral if using the stacks given at the start/fishing in disconnects? Or Pneuma, which is a heal that does the same amount of damage as Dosis?"

The word 'single target' does not appear anywhere in your post. The full discussion on this thread was not limited to Savage encounters in the first place. Your reply was specifically to my "4 buttons", which had nothing to do with encounter difficulty. Context is everything.

You were trying to "own me" by spouting drivel without context. Be clearer in your written thoughts and then, perhaps, I'll believe you meant what you didn't actually say.

[Selvokaz]

all I'm hearing is
I want to play healer for healer privilege, but feel like my DPS is significant by having 7 or 8 buttons that all do damage on various scales. Because all content is too easy for me, and I feel I can do more, let me DPS hard guys, "I can do it",
Everyone else: oh my god you should be a tank or dps then, you'd be awesome at it.
"no I want to be a healer and get those instant queues and get all those recommendations for having top DPS."
Everyone else: No one is giving you recommendations for DPSing though.
"it's because I don't have enough dps actions."
Everyone else: You realize White Mages historically only ever had Holy as an offensive spell right? The devs went the extra distance and made up stuff about elementals and nature magic to give you even more offense than you usually had.
"I don't care about your lore, or previous Final Fantasy games. I think I should be able to do Smite, Mind Blast, cast Death, and Holy Fire people."
Everyone else: What the hell is that?
"Cool stuff I imagined a White Mage could do"
Everyone else: Okay, so shields fall off near-instantly, yet they negate damage all the same, if you have time to DPS you have time to reapply a shield to the tank who is always getting hit, especially when he has no more CD's to burn.
"I don't have anything to do."
Everyone else: Did you not just hear what I said?
"I can do DPS instead"
Everyone else: The tank might be more appreciative of not having to be healed if you keep the shield up, especially during big pulls.
"I'm not a scholar or sage."
Everyone Else: So you are literally just complaining about White Mage who is the most basic of basic healers who canonically did nothing but heal / raise / buff until they learned Holy sometimes called "White" Cause every other healer has something else they could be doing besides just spamming DPS.
"No this is for all healers, all healer lives matter."
Everyone else: AST has 25 unique abilities, six of which deal damage. Scholar has 27 five of which are offensive, sage has 24 unique abilities, 5 of which are damage dealing, White Mage has 25 unique abilities, 5 of which deal damage. So most of them have 5 attacks you can rotate through given certain situations, yet you'd rather have their single target spell be split into a 2 button combo, their AOE split into a 3 button combo?
"Yes."
Everyone else: I assume you prefer to be paid in quarters and not dollars also.
"Yes, I mean no. What does that have to do with anything?"
Everyone Else: Glare 3 Potency 310, Fire IV potency 310, Jolt II potency 310... Holy potency 150, Fire 2 potency 140. Veraero II/Verthunder II potency 140. Are you starting to see a pattern yet?
"But they have more buttons to push."
E. Else: They are also NOT the healer.
"What's the point of the healer then."
E. Else: <Insert Samuel L Jackson> Heal muther***** can you do it?!
"Yeah."
E. Else: Okay then, congratulations you got the easy job of keeping the rest of us monkeys alive.

[Nizzi]

"You mean Toxicon, which is a DPS loss or DPS neutral if using the stacks given at the start/fishing in disconnects? Or Pneuma, which is a heal that does the same amount of damage as Dosis?"

The word 'single target' does not appear anywhere in your post. The full discussion on this thread was not limited to Savage encounters in the first place. Your reply was specifically to my "4 buttons", which had nothing to do with encounter difficulty. Context is everything.

You were trying to "own me" by spouting drivel without context. Be clearer in your written thoughts and then, perhaps, I'll believe you meant what you didn't actually say.

You seem to really like the word 'drivel' now that I've said it, I'm glad I could teach you a new word to use today! It's alright that you didn't understand the post and then flew off the handle, I forgive you my friend and accept your concession.

[DPZ2]

You seem to really like the word 'drivel' now that I've said it, I'm glad I could teach you a new word to use today! It's alright that you didn't understand the post and then flew off the handle, I forgive you my friend and accept your concession.

I'll still think of you as someone who believes direct insults without context or explanation are adequate responses to forum posts.

[Kazelus]

Any DPS is good DPS if you're a healer. What? You're looking to lead the boards with DPS as a healer? Hahahahaha... oh, wait. You're serious ?!?

Cause there is a content in this game that doesn't allow healer to spend 90%+ of their uptime using their DPS button?

all I'm hearing is
I want to play healer for healer privilege, but feel like my DPS is sig... SNIP

Do you realize that the healing required in this game doesn't request you to actually, you know... Use a gcd heal ?
Do you realize that in every content playing a healer consist of spaming 1 with 2 every 30s while weaving oGCD heals when needed ?
WHM have damage spells depending on the FF games in fact, it's not always "pure healing" job. Sometimes they have "Aero", I'm wondering where the elements things they on put WHM comes from suddenly...
And FFXIV jobs are not clones of others FF games, you should have realized that too.
Tank are not DPS, why would they be allowed to have a DPS rotation and not healer ? Their jobs is more or less the same, do damage and weave your utility accordingly when needed. But one is spamming 1 and the other have multiple choice of action to do each GCD.

[Nizzi]

I'll still think of you as someone who believes direct insults without context or explanation are adequate responses to forum posts.

You'll think of me?

Everyone else: You realize White Mages historically only ever had Holy as an offensive spell right? The devs went the extra distance and made up stuff about elementals and nature magic to give you even more offense than you usually had.
"I don't care about your lore, or previous Final Fantasy games. I think I should be able to do Smite, Mind Blast, cast Death, and Holy Fire people."

So "lore" is a good reason for why healers should have 1 button spam because they only had one attack in 30 year old RPGs but lore is not a good reason for why SCH should've kept its DoTs/Selene, AST should've kept its time magic/diverse cards, etc? Make it make sense!