"I don't want to think while I play, so no one should be allowed to."

[pikalovr]

What MMOs have you been playing that go to that level of 'tutorial'? I've encountered exactly zero in the years I've been playing MMORPGs.

GW2 in the first explorer dungeon level 35 has you fight multiple groups of enemies, hell there was one route in the level 45 dungeon that you would have to fight 2-3 huge groups of enemies if you didn't sneak around them and pull them one by one. some people would consider the 8-10 mobs we get now as hoards. but even in tank quests you never really get more than like 5 which is one pack at best, or if it is a large scale battle you normall have other characters that also eat aggro so you're kinda left tanking the few mobs the game has chosen for you to hit (i still try to pull all mobs in that scenario tho regardless cause it's more interesting). i mean if you wanna use open world events as the tutorial so to speak. there's quite a few even in the earlier zones that do a better job of letting you learn your kit and specialities than the role quests even at level 50+

[DPZ2]

GW2 in the first explorer dungeon level 35 has you fight multiple groups of enemies, hell there was one route in the level 45 dungeon that you would have to fight 2-3 huge groups of enemies if you didn't sneak around them and pull them one by one.

From my experience with GW2, you never ever have to enter a dungeon. Plus, that's not really a 'teaching moment' through a job quest. There are plenty of places where one had to learn how to CC properly in WoW, for instance --- thinking specifically about Sunken Temple and the green dragon area in particular. But those weren't 'job quests to teach you how to do your job properly', although I did have an experienced Shaman take two of us as hunters through that area and teach us how to CC. That game just threw things at you, like most games.