Square Enix Does not care about Stalking/Harassment In Game

[Padudu]

Oh they do their jobs. It's just that lots of people think harassment is something other than what it actually is. Having a guy jump around inside an FC house to be annoying is not harassment and in fact, FCs can restrict who can enter the FC house to strictly FC members so I'm not sure why they haven't done that. I mean, I've seen true harassment in the game before and the extreme lengths some folks go to on it. Think reactivating an old FC website that everyone forgot exists just to backdoor into a discord to write a gaslight post based on some set of events that happened about 5-6 years ago, and was willing to pay the monthly fee to reactivate said website.

Like, truly weird stuff happens in long running MMOs.

I mean it's still harassment lol even if they don't lock their FC house. Per the OP the offender (who, once again, is in this thread!) is stalking FC members, going into the FC house despite being told not to, and leaving messages. IDC if they lock the door or not, that kind of behavior IS harassment and is deserving of being thrown into GM baby jail. What's true harassment to you? lol, as soon as you overstep boundaries and continue to knowingly do so, it's harassment my man.

[Colt47]

I mean it's still harassment lol even if they don't lock their FC house. Per the OP the offender (who, once again, is in this thread!) is stalking FC members, going into the FC house despite being told not to, and leaving messages. IDC if they lock the door or not, that kind of behavior IS harassment and is deserving of being thrown into GM baby jail. What's true harassment to you? lol, as soon as you overstep boundaries and continue to knowingly do so, it's harassment my man.

Problem is what exactly is this person doing while following someone around. If the player is doing constant emotes whenever the other guy is standing still that's definitely a problem. If he's haunting the FC house like a ghost but otherwise isn't spamming emotes and is just kind of unwelcomed, that is kind of hard to really call harassment. It's disturbing behavior but they aren't defaming, slandering, or impeding someone in some way.

[Bunnykin_M]

Think it can be self inflicted as well? ALSO.. lock the door put the person black list, if that help anything, it is not illegal in FFXIV to enter an open House/FC.

I've watched people who have been harassed and stalked in-game. Sure, harassers/stalkers can be blacklisted and people can lock their housing doors but the harassing player can still say or shout things that defame the targeted player. They can still emote spam them when their target is in locations that they can find or follow them around playing high pitched piercing sounds in bard performance. Are you going to tell the victims of this stuff that they can no longer go into cities and must shut off bard performance (not a freudian slip, I swear!) as well? If someone is abusing someone in a game, they will find many methods to do so and I would ask why the victim should be the one to bear the brunt of what they must do to actually enjoy the game? And what kind of enjoyment can they have if they fear that this person who is stalking them will turn up wherever they are or are trying to dismantle the relationships they have with other players in the game? Why must the victim of this kind of thing bear all the consequences? That seems so wrong.

Those who stalk and harass are doing so because it makes them feel powerful. All SE is doing when they do nothing about it is empower those who stalk and harass even more.

[Akibaws]

That's just funny honestly. Sounds more like griefing than stalking.

[Liam_Harper]

and in fact, FCs can restrict who can enter the FC house to strictly FC members so I'm not sure why they haven't done that.

If they do this, not only do you lock our the harasser, you also lock out neighbors, friendly passers-by, friends of FC members, alts in other FC's and so on. An entire FC shouldn't have to lose access to having any visitors because of a single stalker.

[Colt47]

If they do this, not only do you lock our the harasser, you also lock out neighbors, friendly passers-by, friends of FC members, alts in other FC's and so on. An entire FC shouldn't have to lose access to having any visitors because of a single stalker.

It's the best short term option in these situations and we've done it before.

[LianaThorne]

If they do this, not only do you lock our the harasser, you also lock out neighbors, friendly passers-by, friends of FC members, alts in other FC's and so on. An entire FC shouldn't have to lose access to having any visitors because of a single stalker.

It's as if meeting your friends at their FC or going to a city/zone to hang out isn't an option. Neighbors also apparently dont exist in housing zones so passerby's are a stretch. It's better to cut the person off from access and force them to make a scene out of frustration. That's an actual ToS violation and will get a GM to actually do something compared to them clearly not seeing a problem with someone visiting the FC.

[hagare]

Oh they do their jobs. It's just that lots of people think harassment is something other than what it actually is. Having a guy jump around inside an FC house to be annoying is not harassment and in fact, FCs can restrict who can enter the FC house to strictly FC members so I'm not sure why they haven't done that. I mean, I've seen true harassment in the game before and the extreme lengths some folks go to on it. Think reactivating an old FC website that everyone forgot exists just to backdoor into a discord to write a gaslight post based on some set of events that happened about 5-6 years ago, and was willing to pay the monthly fee to reactivate said website.

Like, truly weird stuff happens in long running MMOs.

irrelevant. They were asked to leave private property and they didn't.

[Padudu]

Problem is what exactly is this person doing while following someone around. If the player is doing constant emotes whenever the other guy is standing still that's definitely a problem. If he's haunting the FC house like a ghost but otherwise isn't spamming emotes and is just kind of unwelcomed, that is kind of hard to really call harassment. It's disturbing behavior but they aren't defaming, slandering, or impeding someone in some way.

It doesn't matter what they're doing lol, if they're coming back after being expressively told they're not welcome it is harassment. If they did emotes and acted like an ass in say it makes it worse, but the fact is, you're sitting around someone's FC house after being told to leave is intentionally making everyone uncomfortable. And let's not forget, that they are targeting not just the OP, but the entire FC. Stalkers have a great way of "I'm not really breaking the rules, I didn't do anything to you!" But they fully know they're not welcome and that their presence is the problem.

[Lieri]

If it happens to me I'd shoot the perpetrator with a nerf gun.