Square Enix Does not care about Stalking/Harassment In Game

[Colt47]

"[...] we cannot share the outcome with you for privacy reasons [...]

Don't come onto a forum and start saying the GMs are doing nothing when they are legally bound to not share the results of an investigation to the person requesting the investigation. This is not a system to promote revenge games.

[Padudu]

Don't come onto a forum and start saying the GMs are doing nothing when they are legally bound to not share the results of an investigation to the person requesting the investigation. This is not a system to promote revenge games.

Funny enough the person that this entire thread is about already posted here, so seems like GM is not doing their jobs lol

[Colt47]

Funny enough the person that this entire thread is about already posted here, so seems like GM is not doing their jobs lol

Oh they do their jobs. It's just that lots of people think harassment is something other than what it actually is. Having a guy jump around inside an FC house to be annoying is not harassment and in fact, FCs can restrict who can enter the FC house to strictly FC members so I'm not sure why they haven't done that. I mean, I've seen true harassment in the game before and the extreme lengths some folks go to on it. Think reactivating an old FC website that everyone forgot exists just to backdoor into a discord to write a gaslight post based on some set of events that happened about 5-6 years ago, and was willing to pay the monthly fee to reactivate said website.

Like, truly weird stuff happens in long running MMOs.

[Padudu]

Oh they do their jobs. It's just that lots of people think harassment is something other than what it actually is. Having a guy jump around inside an FC house to be annoying is not harassment and in fact, FCs can restrict who can enter the FC house to strictly FC members so I'm not sure why they haven't done that. I mean, I've seen true harassment in the game before and the extreme lengths some folks go to on it. Think reactivating an old FC website that everyone forgot exists just to backdoor into a discord to write a gaslight post based on some set of events that happened about 5-6 years ago, and was willing to pay the monthly fee to reactivate said website.

Like, truly weird stuff happens in long running MMOs.

I mean it's still harassment lol even if they don't lock their FC house. Per the OP the offender (who, once again, is in this thread!) is stalking FC members, going into the FC house despite being told not to, and leaving messages. IDC if they lock the door or not, that kind of behavior IS harassment and is deserving of being thrown into GM baby jail. What's true harassment to you? lol, as soon as you overstep boundaries and continue to knowingly do so, it's harassment my man.

[Colt47]

I mean it's still harassment lol even if they don't lock their FC house. Per the OP the offender (who, once again, is in this thread!) is stalking FC members, going into the FC house despite being told not to, and leaving messages. IDC if they lock the door or not, that kind of behavior IS harassment and is deserving of being thrown into GM baby jail. What's true harassment to you? lol, as soon as you overstep boundaries and continue to knowingly do so, it's harassment my man.

Problem is what exactly is this person doing while following someone around. If the player is doing constant emotes whenever the other guy is standing still that's definitely a problem. If he's haunting the FC house like a ghost but otherwise isn't spamming emotes and is just kind of unwelcomed, that is kind of hard to really call harassment. It's disturbing behavior but they aren't defaming, slandering, or impeding someone in some way.

[Padudu]

Problem is what exactly is this person doing while following someone around. If the player is doing constant emotes whenever the other guy is standing still that's definitely a problem. If he's haunting the FC house like a ghost but otherwise isn't spamming emotes and is just kind of unwelcomed, that is kind of hard to really call harassment. It's disturbing behavior but they aren't defaming, slandering, or impeding someone in some way.

It doesn't matter what they're doing lol, if they're coming back after being expressively told they're not welcome it is harassment. If they did emotes and acted like an ass in say it makes it worse, but the fact is, you're sitting around someone's FC house after being told to leave is intentionally making everyone uncomfortable. And let's not forget, that they are targeting not just the OP, but the entire FC. Stalkers have a great way of "I'm not really breaking the rules, I didn't do anything to you!" But they fully know they're not welcome and that their presence is the problem.

[Liam_Harper]

and in fact, FCs can restrict who can enter the FC house to strictly FC members so I'm not sure why they haven't done that.

If they do this, not only do you lock our the harasser, you also lock out neighbors, friendly passers-by, friends of FC members, alts in other FC's and so on. An entire FC shouldn't have to lose access to having any visitors because of a single stalker.

[Colt47]

If they do this, not only do you lock our the harasser, you also lock out neighbors, friendly passers-by, friends of FC members, alts in other FC's and so on. An entire FC shouldn't have to lose access to having any visitors because of a single stalker.

It's the best short term option in these situations and we've done it before.

[LianaThorne]

If they do this, not only do you lock our the harasser, you also lock out neighbors, friendly passers-by, friends of FC members, alts in other FC's and so on. An entire FC shouldn't have to lose access to having any visitors because of a single stalker.

It's as if meeting your friends at their FC or going to a city/zone to hang out isn't an option. Neighbors also apparently dont exist in housing zones so passerby's are a stretch. It's better to cut the person off from access and force them to make a scene out of frustration. That's an actual ToS violation and will get a GM to actually do something compared to them clearly not seeing a problem with someone visiting the FC.

[hagare]

Oh they do their jobs. It's just that lots of people think harassment is something other than what it actually is. Having a guy jump around inside an FC house to be annoying is not harassment and in fact, FCs can restrict who can enter the FC house to strictly FC members so I'm not sure why they haven't done that. I mean, I've seen true harassment in the game before and the extreme lengths some folks go to on it. Think reactivating an old FC website that everyone forgot exists just to backdoor into a discord to write a gaslight post based on some set of events that happened about 5-6 years ago, and was willing to pay the monthly fee to reactivate said website.

Like, truly weird stuff happens in long running MMOs.

irrelevant. They were asked to leave private property and they didn't.