What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[KizuyaKatogami]

Personally i dont agree with every complaint in this thread, though i can see some points in many of them. However I feel the complaints are representative of a larger issue where venat/EW plotpoints resulted in a 'damn bursting' effect where everyone is looking back and is agitated at things they didnt find as much as a issue in the past and so on.

At the very least i can say i’ve been an avid scion hater since shb . Ever since they all started getting plot armor and having 0 consequences whatsoever i’ve slowly begun to hate him and it only got worse in EW with the slice of life scenes during the final days and their UT fakeouts. I think one of my biggest pet peeves regarding them though is the constant double standards. For example, i’ll bring up graha since he was the main topic for a short time. I find it really strange how i’ve seen so many people criticize Magnai for being an “incel” or giving off really creepy vibes yet….they’re the same people praising graha for making constant advances and worshipping us all the time, it’s seen as “adorable.” And of course in regards to the other scions i don’t think i need to give an example of the many “rules for thee but not for me” events.

[Brinne]

For example, i’ll bring up graha since he was the main topic for a short time. I find it really strange how i’ve seen so many people criticize Magnai for being an “incel” or giving off really creepy vibes yet….they’re the same people praising graha for making constant advances and worshipping us all the time, it’s seen as “adorable.” And of course in regards to the other scions i don’t think i need to give an example of the many “rules for thee but not for me” events.

There are a ton of differences between Magnai and G'raha in behavior, personality, and actions. You can't boil it down to "oh, they're both interested in pursuing romance (which for G'raha does remain an interpretation, not canon.)" Suggesting that you have to have the same opinion of two characters who are explored in very different ways because they performed the same basic type of action or emotion is ludicrous. That's as reductive as trying to say "WoL killed people, Zenos killed people, if you like WoL but don't like Zenos you're a hypocrite."

EDIT: This gets even more incomprehensible if we're trying to criticize on the basis of "what character you like or dislike" as opposed to arguing based on something like moral frameworks. People are allowed to like G'raha and find him adorable, whether based on his circumstances, appearance, character quirks, history, or anything else. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's a fundamentally different discussion than, say, putting forth "Venat was right" or "Venat's way was the best and only way." Emet-Selch is my favorite character, but I mostly shrug if someone expresses that they hate him. When someone expresses, however, that they hate Emet-Selch and therefore the Ancients deserved it and were clearly a dystopian society, that's when I go "whoa, hold up there friendo."