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  1. #61
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Depends on how they hide other player with said feature.

    A couple of other MMO that I played in the past had a similar option:
    - Aura Kingdom = Hides virtually every players from your view. They can see you if you’re around, you just can’t see them with this toggled on. The advantage is it reduces load time & the fps lag it imposes to most of lower end PCs at that time. Party members remains visible. In the 40-man raid, this also hides any non-party member and their skill effects.
    - SMT IMAGINE Online = when toggled on, both sides can still see each other. But instead of seeing their character along with their clothing, what you’re seeing is replaced by a generic placeholder model. Like the former, it reduces load time & helps immensely when traversing through highly crowded zones at server peak hour especially. The only time you get to see the actual model is when the area is not too crowded or they are your party member.

    Personally I’d love such feature, keep it as an option.
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  2. #62
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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Dancer Lv 90
    They are in dire need of this feature for Leaps of Faith GATE.

    It's beyond comedic levels of ridiculous to allow that many players in such a small space.
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  3. #63
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    Odderan Gedesud
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    Lamia
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    Dragoon Lv 94
    Why even play an mmo then? This game is already borderline single player with how little it gets you to do things with other people.

    There's so many games out there with a better story, SP experience, or even RPG elements than this game for cheaper. The thing that's supposed to keep you interested is the mmo part.
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  4. #64
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    Khujo'sae Tayuun
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    Ultros
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    Dragoon Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Restonance View Post
    Why even play an mmo then? This game is already borderline single player with how little it gets you to do things with other people.

    There's so many games out there with a better story, SP experience, or even RPG elements than this game for cheaper. The thing that's supposed to keep you interested is the mmo part.
    I like to encounter people playing the game in an ordinary way on an ordinary day; if it's not new content, I like to see one or two other people doing the same content I'm doing by sheer coincidence. Even just people who are farming the same gathering nodes as me! That is the pleasant feeling of community I like to have from playing an MMO. But I do not like the massive crowds that make it extremely difficult to even target NPCs, especially because I'm one of the people who likes to talk to every NPC who doesn't progress the quest and see what they have to say. I want to be able to see their animations, too, which can be really hard on launch day! I also do not like to be unable to participate in jump puzzles because it's hard to see exactly where I'm standing and exactly where the edge of the next platform is during Make It Rain.

    February live letter, YoshiP outright said they are trying to make it fully solo playable and allow people to enjoy the game either way. You can enjoy it as an MMO totally unimpeded by other people enjoying it however they want. I can see where it wouldn't make sense to some people, but it really doesn't impede your experience of the game as a multiplayer game at all, and it wouldn't be a difficult feature to implement.
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  5. #65
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Restonance View Post
    Why even play an mmo then? This game is already borderline single player with how little it gets you to do things with other people.

    There's so many games out there with a better story, SP experience, or even RPG elements than this game for cheaper. The thing that's supposed to keep you interested is the mmo part.
    "wHy EvEn PlAy An MmO tHeN?" People are free to do what they want, dress how they want, but you people draw the line when someone wants some alone time. Let's be honest. A lot of people aren't very good company to begin with.

    In this case, people just want to be able to see and enjoy the scenery better. There are very practical reasons for this, among them having fewer distractions when attempting something like Leap of Faith. I know I'm not alone in finding it irritating when I can't see what's in ahead of me through the very distracting crowd of people. Obviously, it's not something you want everywhere. You want to be able to see and be seen in any combat content.
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  6. #66
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Depends on how they hide other player with said feature.

    A couple of other MMO that I played in the past had a similar option:
    - Aura Kingdom = Hides virtually every players from your view. They can see you if you’re around, you just can’t see them with this toggled on. The advantage is it reduces load time & the fps lag it imposes to most of lower end PCs at that time. Party members remains visible. In the 40-man raid, this also hides any non-party member and their skill effects.
    - SMT IMAGINE Online = when toggled on, both sides can still see each other. But instead of seeing their character along with their clothing, what you’re seeing is replaced by a generic placeholder model. Like the former, it reduces load time & helps immensely when traversing through highly crowded zones at server peak hour especially. The only time you get to see the actual model is when the area is not too crowded or they are your party member.

    Personally I’d love such feature, keep it as an option.
    That is precisely what I was alluding to in my example, and that is why it was used in that other MMO - to reduce load time and FPS lag on lower end NPCs. Now imagine instead of a 40 man raid, you're in an area with 400 or 800 PCs or even higher, and they aren't static, they have battle effects plus environmental effects as well. The ability to easily toggle or save specific display settings and save them for specific occasions e.g. siege, single-player, raid, really improves QOL.
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  7. #67
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    Would probably help people on decade old potato PC's not having to render other players too. I don't see anything against the option. I still want a toggle to default other players into their job gear so I don't have to see the jokey glams in serious cutscenes etc.
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  8. #68
    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    Would probably help people on decade old potato PC's not having to render other players too. I don't see anything against the option. I still want a toggle to default other players into their job gear so I don't have to see the jokey glams in serious cutscenes etc.
    That's what unending story is for.
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  9. #69
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    Ilisidi Malguri
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    Ragnarok
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    Botanist Lv 100
    I would like such an hide player option macroable. So I can turn them off easily and on the fly when I see there's too many people on the same quest I'm on and can turn other players on again once I'm done talking to every NPC and looking at every piece of scenery I want to.
    Even better if it were targeted similar to gpose, so I could turn off people (and their minions and mounts) not in my FC or friends or in my group.

    It's nice seeing other people around, but not when there are ten people atop the NPC I want to talk to and see how they react or I react.
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  10. #70
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    Would probably help people on decade old potato PC's not having to render other players too. I don't see anything against the option. I still want a toggle to default other players into their job gear so I don't have to see the jokey glams in serious cutscenes etc.
    You.. Don't want to have that discussion here. People have some INSANE arguments.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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