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    Quote Originally Posted by Rulakir View Post
    It's somewhat comforting to read both you and Cleretic realize why people dislike the story even if you won't accept it. ("We can't accept it! We won't accept it!")
    See I would say something similar. Given this entire discussion requires dismissing that whole cutscene you’re quoting. Maybe not wise to bring that up as an example of “accepting reality.”

    Given I don’t believe the evidence supports the “there just plants and animals” hypothesis, no I don’t really think this is a valid criticism of Endwalker.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rulakir View Post
    This is exactly the reason why people don't like Venat. She had the opportunity for a 'do over' and didn't take it. Her reasons for not doing so simply don't hold up under scrutiny. The debate will never end because while you believe she did the best/only thing she could, others do not.
    So I have to ask, not just you but also everyone else that’s been involved in this discussion for the past several months. Do you think it’s objectively true that Venat is in the wrong, that her reasons “don’t hold up to scrutiny?”

    Quote Originally Posted by Veloran View Post
    The whole premise has been doing nothing but falling apart like a jenga tower with every new piece of information related to it released since 6.0. Since the Omega quests just come out and say that the resistance to the Dynamis transformation is almost totally random and not strongly correlated to one's life conditions or strength of character, the entire idea that the sundering was necessary to create a world of people that could withstand despair and existential oblivion through their inurement to suffering basically becomes moot.
    Or as said by Omega it’s a combination of random environmental and emotional factors like friends, family, support systems, personal beliefs, hopes, experiences etc. We suggest this to Omega when we leave Thavnair for Garlemald. Those happen to also be the things mentioned by Venat. It’s the same irl, life experiences, financial situation, genetics, belief systems, support networks, all impact the chance one has of experiencing mental health problems. The point isn’t to say that there isn’t ways to improve ones ability handle these horrific occurrences, but that what ultimately will do the trick is entirely specific to the person. That randomness is exactly why She left humanity alone. Endwalker almost screamed at the player that one’s meaning and purpose has to be fine by oneself. Omegas conclusion that the heart is “the phenomenon that influences ones interpretation of reality” is exactly the kind of “life is what you make of it” statement that many criticized Endwalker for.
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